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Feb 23, 2008, 02:32 PM
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I personally support the idea of America switching to Universal Healthcare, especially after watching Michael Moore's Sicko, just wanted to know everyone else's thoughts about Universal Healthcare
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Feb 23, 2008, 09:49 PM
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It depends on what you define as universal healthcare.
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Feb 23, 2008, 11:14 PM
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I think all Americans should have healthcare.
To me it is a fullfillment of our first document.
Necessary for the inalienable right to life.
Once we agree to this we can haggle about the details.
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Feb 24, 2008, 01:54 AM
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I completely agree with it on principle. I just wonder if we will ever jump over all the political, social and other hurdles to acheive it.
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Feb 24, 2008, 09:07 AM
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*Open-minded* conservative here---
I don't have a strong opinion about universal healthcare. I think those that advocate it are missing some important facts, and those that denounce it completely are a bit closed-minded.
My question for all of you is, what would be the implications of a universial healthcare-type system in the US on nurses, nursing salaries, job outlook, etc... ???
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Feb 24, 2008, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by spacenurse
I think all Americans should have healthcare.
Necessary for the inalienable right to life.
Once we agree to this we can haggle about the details.
Okay, let's look hard and rationally at this. How is health care more of a right to life than food, shelter, education, and [for adults] a means to earn a livelyhood? [One cannot do any of the above without all of the above.]
If it is different or more important, WHY? ( No cheating on "everyone needs it-"everyone needs the others, also!)
If it is not, should "we" be providing all the rest universally as well?
Once we iron this out, THEN we can haggle about the details!!
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Feb 24, 2008, 03:59 PM
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TARDIS
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With good health and an education you have the resources to meet your other needs....
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Feb 24, 2008, 05:53 PM
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Who's John Galt
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Feb 24, 2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HM2Viking
With good health and an education you have the resources to meet your other needs....
With the government meeting ALL YOUR NEEDS, however, there is no motivation to do more. THAT is the chief flaw in socialism. WHO is going to provide all these services once nobody has to work anymore?
THERE is NO FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT to the services of others.
~faith,
Timothy.
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Feb 24, 2008, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA
Americans are basically generous people..............
THAT is why NEITHER of the Democrat nominees support anything near real "universal care". Why don't they? It's a political loser.
NEITHER Barry nor Hillary will bring you the gov't rationed care you so desire.
(How can Barry get through Congress something so DIVISIVE in his new era of non-divisive politics? Really. Think about it. CHANGING THE POLITICS OF USUAL means caving on everything that counts.)
~faith,
Timothy.
In case you haven't noticed, we already have rationed care. The haves have health care, and the havenots have Emergency Rooms. Even the haves use Emergency Rooms when they cannot access health care any other way, do to their Insurace Companies.
Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Spokane, Washington
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