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Old Nov 04, 2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: Ten Reasons Why American Health Care Is so Bad

Originally Posted by HM2Viking View Post
From The American Prospect:
Indeed, we have brand new data. The Commonwealth Fund just released a broad survey collecting health care attitudes and experiences from patients in Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Here are summaries of some of the findings:


1. We spend the most. We spend more than any other country in the world. In 2005, our per capita -- so, per person -- spending was $6,697. The next highest in the study was Canada, at $3,326. And remember -- that's "mean" spending, so it's the amount we spend divided by our population. But unlike in Canada, about 16 percent of our population doesn't have insurance, and so often can't use the system. These facts should set the stage for all numbers that come after: Every time you see a data point in which were dead last, or not leading the pack, remember that we spend twice as much as any of our competitors.
2. We don't pay doctors according to the quality of their care.
3. Our wait times are low because many of us aren't getting care at all.
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In just the past year, a full 25 percent of us didn't visit the doctor when sick because we couldn't afford it. Twenty-three percent skipped a test, treatment, or follow-up recommended by a doctor. Another 23 percent didn't fill a prescription. No other country is even close to this sort of income-based rationing.
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4. Most of us don't have a regular physician.
5. Our care isn't particularly convenient.
6. Our doctors don't listen to us.
7. We have high rates of chronic conditions.
8. … But we're not treating them properly.
9. We're frequent victims of medical, medication, and lab errors.
10. Most of us are dissatisfied with our current system.

1. I agree our costs are high, but that is partially due to paying for the indigent.
2. Don't really have an opinion on this one, don't understand. Doctors are paid quite well.
3. Low compared to what? To get in to see a specialist it can take 3-6 months sometimes.
4. Is this because of the health care system and what is the stats on that one. I see alot of people with a primary doc.
5. Convenient how is it not? Doctors offices everywhere, emergency room and urgent cares galore. GO to a 3rd world country.
6. A good Doctor will listen to you.
7. This has nothing to do with our health care system, it has to do with our lifestyles!
8. Or is it patients are non compliant.
9. Nothing is perfect, frequent by what standards.
10. I am not dissatisfied with our current system. Maybe because I have seen where there is no health care.

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Old Nov 05, 2007, 12:29 AM
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Re: Ten Reasons Why American Health Care Is so Bad

Originally Posted by jmgrn65
People in Canada are dying, waiting on Heart Surgery.
Originally Posted by jmgrn65
Originally Posted by HM2Viking
3. Our wait times are low because many of us aren't getting care at all.
3. Low compared to what? To get in to see a specialist it can take 3-6 months sometimes.
Make up your mind

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Old Nov 05, 2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Ten Reasons Why American Health Care Is so Bad

JMG,
I would encourage you to read the entire article. (It is free through the link). Comparing our system downward to the third world does not open discussions for how to improve. Instead this seems like a justification/argument for maintaining the status quo. The goal should be (IMO) "How can we make our health system work better?" In other words what can lessons can be learned from other countries? How can we use these lessons to improve our system?

The other large issue is that while you may be satisfied and have access to good care; ignoring health care disparities leads to increased costs for everyone. In the long run this phenomenon tends to erode care quality.

FOR TOS reasons I took only the main points for posting.

Rgds
HM2


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Old Nov 06, 2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: Ten Reasons Why American Health Care Is so Bad

The states with an orientation towards universal care are healthier. See:

The United Health Foundation, the American Public Health Association and the Partnership for Prevention on Monday released a report that ranked states' overall health based on 20 well-being factors, including poverty levels for children, violent crime, obesity, and racial and ethnic health disparities, the Salt Lake City Deseret Morning News reports.

The report, "America's Health Rankings: A Call to Action for People and Their Communities," ranked Vermont as the healthiest state, followed by Minnesota, Hawaii, New Hampshire and Connecticut. Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Tennessee were ranked at the bottom of the list (Collins, Salt Lake City Deseret Morning News, 11/5).
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_r...fm?DR_ID=48673

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