[pickledpepperRN]

Some faith based charities have stollen million$ as have the United Way and others. Where did all the money donated to the victims of Katrina go?

That does not negate the value of them.
A volunteer at the free clinic I used to volunteer at stole money and drugs.
I know that in spite of that I'm not going to stop donating to it since I no longer give my time.

I love my country. If we cannot trust the government we need to elect new representatives and do all we can to hold them to their responsibilities.
I also think we need to get corporate money out of elections.
Individuals who own or work for those corporations can donate to candidates. Why should WE have to pay health insurance companies for coverage only to have them use OUR money to buy politicians?
So they can get laws passed aallowing them to take our money and deny us the care we were promised?

[ingelein]

Originally Posted by stevielynn

None.

And yes, if the government had not gotten in the way of the community taking care of people, making an HUGE entitlement of welfare and healthcare.

We've created this mess.

steph

"Americans would have to make at least 10 times the donations they currently give to charity to fully replace government social spending." "What Charity Can and Cannot Do" -Julian Walpert. The government was elected by the people, I dont understand this dissconnect and mistrust.If the government does not do the bidding of the people, WE the PEOPLE have a right to get rid of them, this is still a DEMOCRACY, last time I looked.
The healthcare mess was created by corporate greed, not our government and there is no more true welfare.I will concede that the CURRENT administration has policies that are heavily weighted toward one segment of society, business, and THAT has created a huge mess for the poor and middle class worker. Time for a change, 2008 will be here sooner than we think.

[HM2Viking]

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...act/162/9/1652
CONCLUSIONS: The results indicate that social adversity in childhood and fetal life is independently associated with the risk of developing schizophrenia and other psychoses later in life. The risks increased with an increasing number of exposures, suggesting a dose-response relationship.

One of the implications from a public health perspective of this study is that improving child health reduces the risk of developing debilitating diseases late in life. Reducing poverty and improving health decreases the likelihood of chronic illness.

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by HM2Viking

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/...act/162/9/1652
CONCLUSIONS: The results indicate that social adversity in childhood and fetal life is independently associated with the risk of developing schizophrenia and other psychoses later in life. The risks increased with an increasing number of exposures, suggesting a dose-response relationship.

One of the implications from a public health perspective of this study is that improving child health reduces the risk of developing debilitating diseases late in life. Reducing poverty and improving health decreases the likelihood of chronic illness.

Social Adversity . . . well, tell that to the "Greatest Generation" that grew up during the Depression. The way they lived would be considered poverty. And they didn't have television, computers, cars, cell phones, fast food, etc. They fought WWII and lived to lead productive and happy lives.

Tell that to the physician who fled Vietnam at 16 and grew up to start a medical mission.

Tell that to the Vietnamese dentist who escaped at 12 with bullets shot over his head as he jumped from a boat into the water. This man is the happiest, kindest man you'd ever want to meet and you should see him with the children of Vietnam.

Tell that to the author of "First They Killed My Father" - Loung Ung, who endured Pol Pot's Kymer Rouge army, who was trained as a child soldeir in a work camp, who survived horror to become the national spokesperson for the Campaign for Landmine Free World, a program of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation.

Tell that to anyone who has ever endured hardship.

It seems to me that people want to wrap everyone in bubble wrap or cotton and no one is to ever experience any hardship at all. Actually, my thoughts are that this kind of treatment would create people unable to live adult productive lives.

There is an epidemic of obesity in children today - not starvation.

I realize that kids need food and healthcare . . . but to link poverty and lack of healthcare to psychosis later in life seems a huge leap to me. The scientists I read at MIT are looking at genetics to explain schizophrenia and autism and other mind disorders.

steph

[Tweety]

BTW, Steph. if there wasn't government mandated supplementation of our milk, cereal, pasta, etc. those obese children would be malnourished.

Space, wouldn't it be nice to get corporate money out of our elections?

[pickledpepperRN]

Originally Posted by Tweety

BTW, Steph. if there wasn't government mandated supplementation of our milk, cereal, pasta, etc. those obese children would be malnourished.

Space, wouldn't it be nice to get corporate money out of our elections?

Oh yes Tweety!

I think that is the biggest bad influence on our system now.
And I was asked if I want to give $3.00 to the Presidential elections when doing my taxes.

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by Tweety

BTW, Steph. if there wasn't government mandated supplementation of our milk, cereal, pasta, etc. those obese children would be malnourished.

I dunno Tweet-heart . . . . seems like we'd have to get the government involved in the most daily parts of our lives in order to address all the reasons.

Just the other day at my daughter's softball game, the very overweight (and sweet, lovely, awesome friend and mom) brought a large bag of food for the girls. It had chips, crackers, candy bars, other candy, etc. I had just gotten two cartons of strawberries and some bananas for the girls - there was a sale, buy one carton, get one for free. I'll bet mine stuff cost less and is more nutritious. They aren't rich, they don't have medical insurance.

"The average American child spends several hours each day watching television; time which in previous years might have been devoted to physical pursuits. Obesity is greater among children and adolescents who frequently watch television . . . . not only because little energy is expended while viewing but also because of concurrent consumption of high-calorie snacks. Only about one-third of elementary children have daily physical education, and fewer than one-fifth have extracurricular physical activity programs at their schools . . ."

• Limit TV viewing and time on the computer to one or two hours per day.
• Encourage participation in physical activity and sports.
• Curtail visits to fast-food restaurants.
• Provide nutritious, well-balanced, low-calorie, and low-fat meals.
• Limit the availability of high-fat and high-sugar snacks in your home.

steph

[Tweety]

Sounds simple doesn't Steph?

[pickledpepperRN]

I know when I was a kid we played outside until our Mom called us in. We rode bikes for miles knowing what time dinner would be. We played in vacant lots and skated on the sidewalk.
Now it is dangerous to let your kids out of your sight. Walking home from school is risky in most cities and towns.
Physical activity needs to be planned. Too many schools not only have no after school sports they don't even have daily PE.

And people either don't truly understand how or why to eat healthy food.

My daughter thought she was eating well with creamy salad dressing, an entire box of Snackwell fat free cookies, and such.
At her yearly physical a nurse practicioner spent almost an hour with charts and such teaching her what her future would be if she remained overweight. She started exercising, eating better (balsamic vinigar instead of ranch) and has lost 70 pounds in a little less than 1 1/2 years.
Mom couldn't convince her but a nurs got through.

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by Tweety

Sounds simple doesn't Steph?

I think you are feeling your oats tonight.


steph