[UKRNinUSA]

Originally Posted by Gromit

Gee, lets see, what would be an even better example of a body that is even MORE corrupt than your example? Something that is CONSISTENTLY fraught with corruption? Oh yeah, that would be GOVERNMENT. At least you CAN go after the insurance companies and catch 'em. Its much harder to hold the government accountable for ITS actions.

I am TOTALLY with you on that one. Especially after watching last week's 60 minutes piece about the incestuous relationship the government has with the pharmaceutical industry. I was blown away.

[UKRNinUSA]

Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA

Oh, I didn't ace the math or verbal parts, by any means. I DID ace the test of standard written English, though.

Of course, now I'm older and wiser and sometimes less of a rule-follower: on purpose. It's the maverick in me, don't ya know.

~faith,
Timothy.

Maverick's rock!
( BTW what ever happened to that nice, old maverick John McCain?)

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by UKRNinUSA

Maverick's rock!
( BTW what ever happened to that nice, old maverick John McCain?)

He spent 4 yrs going out of his way to offend his base, and surprise, he now HAS no base. However, that's straying into politics.

~faith,
Timothy.

[UKRNinUSA]

Originally Posted by rngreenhorn

And, the reason why America is the most powerful nation in the world is because of profit. Without profit, we have no money to invest in better equipment, newer technology etc.

And, never start a sentence with a conjunction.

Last I heard the US was seventh in the world for technological innovation.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...cal_innovation

"US has lost its position as the world’s primary engine of technology innovation, according to a report by the World Economic Forum. The US is now ranked seventh in the body’s league table measuring the impact of technology on the development of nations. A deterioration of the political and regulatory environment in the US prompted the fall, the report said.

The top spot went for the first time to Denmark, followed by Sweden.

Countries were judged on technological advancements in general business, the infrastructure available and the extent to which government policy creates a framework necessary for economic development and increased competitiveness. The Networked Readiness Index, the sixth of its kind published by the World Economic Forum with Insead, the Paris-based business school, scrutinised progress in 122 economies worldwide.

Despite losing its top position, the US still maintained a strong focus on innovation, driven by one of the world’s best tertiary education systems and its high degree of co-operation with industry, the report said. The country’s efficient market environment, conducive to the availability of venture capital, and the sophistication of financial markets, was also given recognition.

Denmark is now regarded as the world leader in technological innovation and application, with its Nordic neighbours Sweden, Finland and Norway claiming second, fourth and 10th place respectively. “Denmark, in particular, has benefited from the very effective government e-leadership, reflected in early liberalisation of the telecommunications sector, a first-rate regulatory environment and large availability of e-government services,” said Irene Mia, senior economist at World Economic Forum."

BTW, don't worry about that silly conjunction thingy. It's a little trick we writers use for emphasis.

[ingelein]

Also, some posters use very descriptive terms to refer to members of our federal government, like "stormtroopers" and "cabal". Wow this actually reminds me of the hippy days when such terms were used by the far left to describe the government. Go figure.

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by ingelein

Also, some very descriptive terms are used to refer to members of our federal government, like "stormtroopers" and "cabal". Wow this actually reminds me of the hippy days when such terms were used by the far left to describe the government. Go figure.

The more things change . . .

~faith,
Timothy.

[ingelein]

Originally Posted by UKRNinUSA

Last I heard the US was seventh in the world for technological innovation.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...cal_innovation



The top spot went for the first time to Denmark, followed by Sweden.


Despite losing its top position, the US still maintained a strong focus on innovation, driven by one of the world’s best tertiary education systems and its high degree of co-operation with industry, the report said. The country’s efficient market environment, conducive to the availability of venture capital, and the sophistication of financial markets, was also given recognition.

Denmark is now regarded as the world leader in technological innovation and application, with its Nordic neighbours Sweden, Finland and Norway claiming second, fourth and 10th place respectively. “Denmark, in particular, has benefited from the very effective government e-leadership, reflected in early liberalisation of the telecommunications sector, a first-rate regulatory environment and large availability of e-government services,” said Irene Mia, senior economist at World Economic Forum."

BTW, don't worry about that silly conjunction thingy. It's a little trick we writers use for emphasis.

Isnt it interesting that these so called "socialist" countries are top in technological innovation. Maybe it takes some of that innovative spirit to make a universal health care sysytem work for the citizens , the government and the market.I dont think we have lost that innovative drive, at least I hope we haven't.

[HM2Viking]

Originally Posted by ingelein

Isnt it interesting that these so called "socialist" countries are top in technological innovation. Maybe it takes some of that innovative spirit to make a universal health care sysytem work for the citizens , the government and the market.I dont think we have lost that innovative drive, at least I hope we haven't.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050630/b0630102.html

Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.
He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.
"The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

The libertarian economic paradise has failed to deliver good education, good health care and good jobs to its workers. Below average investment ratess yield below average results

[Gromit]

really? I was unaware that 'the game' was "over". There does seem to exist a faction in this country that is seemingly always ready to declare defeat. Thats something I never have understood -I guess its because I inherited the trait from my parents, and grandparents, and great grandparents of "never say die". folks in my family have always had that nasty habit of just never quitting until its truly over. I'm proud to count myself among their numbers.

[horsenurse25]

Several people have written on here that the US is BEST in the world, most POWERFUL in the world, Best this, best that.


I think it is more accurate to say that the US is best in your hearts and your favorite in the world. And that is an excellent feeling. However, discounting global statistics in order to advance your personal feelings is simply not reasonable.

The bottom line is that the US is nowhere near the top in almost every catagory that there is.

Saying that something is not perfect or the best does not mean that you cannot still love it best...


And I would say that the fact that every single country that has universal health care fight like absolute tigers to keep it...despite considerable pressure from doctors, pharmaceuticals, lawyers and investors...is the biggest endorsement there can be.

It doesn't matter how many people that "you met or know" that says they hate it. The bottom line is that if it did not work, the public would be trying to get rid of it....AND THEY ARE NOT!!!