[mercyteapot]

I don't think translating French salaries into American dollars gives us any real picture of the standard of living those dollars provide. It's comparing apples to oranges.

[multicollinearity]

deleted. not entering this fray!

[rninme]

Just a thought....I have a Canadian RN friend....after 30 years of working for the CHS....they get a full pension....their entire salary, complete with raises....for the rest of their lives. Better than any pension plan I am looking at....and I have been working for 20+ years now .

I don't think that socialized medicine is the answer...but....something has to be done.

[PANurseRN1]

National pride can be the cause of much ignorance. With all the "Rah Rah, USA USA!" posts, do people not see that perhaps there are some things we can learn from other countries? Our way is not the only way.

[TraumaNurseRN]

omg....that's scarey.....Poor patients only having two nurses in a big icu as you have.....hopefully you carry addition insurance to cover your license....wow

[mercyteapot]

Oh well, look on the bright side. Dick Cheney has great healthcare.

[ZippyGBR]

Originally Posted by azhiker96

I found this in the article,

I haven't been able to find a source for nurse's salaries in France. Just trying to see the whole picture and how far our salaries would fall under a France style healthcare system.

as per the previous thread on socialised healthcare

can't answer for the cheese eating surrender monkies but can answer for the UK

here in the western edge of rightpondia Basic (pre tax but exlcuding unsocialable hours premia) Salaliries for registered nurses without managerial responsiblity or higherlevle practice fall into Agenda for change band 5 with 8 incremental profession from roughly 38K USD (19683 gbp) to 50K USD (25424gbp) outside of London and other ares which attract cost of living allowances

last year on a basic of 21 and a bit K GBP earned 27k GBP after unsocial hours premium without any Overtime working ... i also enjoyed 7 + weeks of paid annual leave ( 29 (7.5. hours) days of annual leave and 8 (7.5.) leave days for bank(public holidays)...

you also have to be sure that the figure given as a 'average' reflects which average if it;s the average for all Docs including part time workers and 1st year residnets ... bearign in mind that the EU is also moving to a maximum 48 hours working week for all...

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

Oh well, look on the bright side. Dick Cheney has great healthcare.

Why shouldn't he? He EARNED it.

~faith,
Timothy.

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by ZippyGBR

as per the previous thread on socialised healthcare

can't answer for the cheese eating surrender monkies but can answer for the UK

here in the western edge of rightpondia Basic (pre tax but exlcuding unsocialable hours premia) Salaliries for registered nurses without managerial responsiblity or higherlevle practice fall into Agenda for change band 5 with 8 incremental profession from roughly 38K USD (19683 gbp) to 50K USD (25424gbp) outside of London and other ares which attract cost of living allowances

last year on a basic of 21 and a bit K GBP earned 27k GBP after unsocial hours premium without any Overtime working ... i also enjoyed 7 + weeks of paid annual leave ( 29 (7.5. hours) days of annual leave and 8 (7.5.) leave days for bank(public holidays)...

you also have to be sure that the figure given as a 'average' reflects which average if it;s the average for all Docs including part time workers and 1st year residnets ... bearign in mind that the EU is also moving to a maximum 48 hours working week for all...

I haven't earned less that 100k (as a non-management, bedside RN) in the last 4 yrs. . . I prefer our system better.

I take it back, I fell JUST (less than 1k) short this past year, but I took the month of December off to be with my newborn.

Of course, since the 'French System' pays docs less than 60k/yr, I guess MY 100k is out the window.

~faith,
Timothy.

[suanna]

"Frankly, I rather place my faith in some greedy corporation that at least has a vested interest in meeting my needs."


Unfortunately that samg corporation has a vested intrest in you dropping dead quickly rather that undergo expensive treatments/tests/hospital stays.