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  #101  
Old Aug 02, 2007, 09:14 AM
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Re: no perfect system, but prefer privatized

Originally Posted by ArwenEvenstar View Post
I am NO expert on this issue. But I know that some Americans tend to think of socialized medicine as this practically perfect system. "Everyone gets free health care! We need that here!" But as mentioned in the above post from Australia, in socialized systems you can often have long waiting lists! And only those who can afford to pay privately or have a private health insurance policy can get immediate/prompt care. Does this seem fair? The wealthier get better care than the poor. Hey...this sounds similar to the complaints about our US system of private health care! See...there is no perfect system! Socialized medicine and privatized medicine both have problems.

I used to live near the Canadian border and we sometimes had Canadians come to our US hospitals to pay privately for care because they were on a several year long waiting list for the procedure in Canada.

And Americans seem to complain a lot about taxes... But do you know how high the tax rates are in these "cradle to grave" countries?? Most Americans would probably flip their lids. Socialized health care isn't free...they pay for it through high tax rates.

I personally prefer out US private system.

Anyhow...I better stop writing because this topic can easily head off into political issues....
Socialism leads to what you might have in PRISON NO FREEDOM and your 3 square meals a day.
As an American champion freedom and true principles of freedom as rediscovered by the founding fathers. 2 founders have warned..
Those who give up freedom for a little security deserve neither and will end up with neither. This is not an opinion but rather historical fact that continues to progress even here now in the good ole US of A.

Promised and promoted government security is a myth and will destroy freedoms of our future and has been placing our children into further bondage and un payable debts.

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Old Aug 02, 2007, 10:34 AM
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Re: "Socialized medicine"

I think there is a big difference between a socialist/communist dictatorship and a democracy.
Great Britian has socialized medicine controlled by the voters.

Not my first choice but certainly as free as we are in the USA.
Many of us are afraid to change jobs for fear of losing our healthcare.

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Old Aug 02, 2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: "Socialized medicine"

Originally Posted by spacenurse View Post
I think there is a big difference between a socialist/communist dictatorship and a democracy.
Great Britian has socialized medicine controlled by the voters.

Not my first choice but certainly as free as we are in the USA.
Many of us are afraid to change jobs for fear of losing our healthcare.

I like your signature quote. (I have no idea who Lilian Wald is?) We need a true HEalth promoting system that promotes an ounce of prevention more than it promotes a puond of treatment.

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Old Aug 02, 2007, 05:53 PM
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Re: "Socialized medicine"

Lillian Wald was the creator of Public Health nursing:

http://www.jwa.org/exhibits/wov/wald/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillian_Wald

I read that you are a pre nursing student.
I hope your program includes nursing history including Lillian, Lavinia Dock, and Mary Breckenridge.

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Old Aug 03, 2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: "Socialized medicine"

Originally Posted by marvelous_truth View Post
I like your signature quote. (I have no idea who Lilian Wald is?) We need a true HEalth promoting system that promotes an ounce of prevention more than it promotes a puond of treatment.
She founded the school nursing movement and had a very broad view of health. Sorry Space, I responded to something you had already commented on.....

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