[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by MBANurse

sigh...

you stated exact quotes here...





you added "user defined" later on.

but we digress... lets get back to the poor children shan't we?

I know what I said and when I said it. Cutting and pasting only those words that you choose doesn't change the fact that I said home is defined by the occupant before you shared with us all the places you lived and how they aren't your home. You can certainly move on to whatever topic you would like.

[MBANurse]

Anyway...

Jude;

I agree with you that the cost of rounding up Illegals is prohibitive.
I agree that people that need immediate treatment should in fact get it.

But we have digressed so far from the original topic that we (or at least I) have forgotten what it was.
I believe that this thread was originally about the children of working poor; and basically how the veto of the SCHIP expansion does them a great disservice.

You have presented well reasoned arguments; would you please share with me your position on this?

[HeyJude]

Originally Posted by ingelein

I say welcome to America, this country is big enough for all of us.

I completely understand and respect where you are coming from, ingelein. I didn't mean to make light of your family's history. I was referring to several hundred years ago, and the 'Manifest Destiny', not displaced people who were kicked out of their homeland by an evil madman's policies. Please know that.

And I agree with you that it's reasonable to ask people to learn English if they come here to live. That's perfectly fine, and it benefits both citizen and immigrant. And it DOES show gratitude to a country that allows you to live here. On this I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I don't think it's unreasonable to give people say 3-5 years (maybe more, maybe less) to prove they can speak English once they've established residency. I agree with English-immersion. It's the best way. Immersion is how I learned Spanish, and I don't speak it with an American accent. I completely agree that people (especially kids, the little sponges) may struggle for a few weeks, but after that will be almost flawless speakers. I've seen it over and over.

[ingelein]

Originally Posted by HeyJude

I completely understand and respect where you are coming from, ingelein. I didn't mean to make light of your family's history. I was referring to several hundred years ago, and the 'Manifest Destiny', not displaced people who were kicked out of their homeland by an evil madman's policies. Please know that.

And I agree with you that it's reasonable to ask people to learn English if they come here to live. That's perfectly fine, and it benefits both citizen and immigrant. And it DOES show gratitude to a country that allows you to live here. On this I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I don't think it's unreasonable to give people say 3-5 years (maybe more, maybe less) to prove they can speak English once they've established residency. I agree with English-immersion. It's the best way. Immersion is how I learned Spanish, and I don't speak it with an American accent. I completely agree that people (especially kids, the little sponges) may struggle for a few weeks, but after that will be almost flawless speakers. I've seen it over and over.

Thanks, I am still so many years later sensitive about this, strange huh? I remember kids across the street yelling,"NAZI, GO HOME" to us, I ran in inside and asked my mother "what is a nazi and why do they want us to go home, isn't this our home?", she just cried.

[pickledpepperRN]

A friends father taught high school math on a Southern California reservation (without a casino).
She was one of his students and is now a nurse.
His humorous remark when the subject of immigration comes up, "If those Indians don't like it here; why don't they go back where they came from?"

[HeyJude]

Originally Posted by ingelein

Thanks, I am still so many years later sensitive about this, strange huh? I remember kids across the street yelling,"NAZI, GO HOME" to us, I ran in inside and asked my mother "what is a nazi and why do they want us to go home, isn't this our home?", she just cried.

Oh Lord, how terrible. I think it's perfectly understandable for you to be sensitive about things like that years after they happen.

[ingelein]

Originally Posted by HeyJude

Oh Lord, how terrible. I think it's perfectly understandable for you to be sensitive about things like that years after they happen.

Thanks Spacenurse and HeyJude, Hey, Jude, I actually wanted to tell you I loved the Beatles, my favorite song is Across the Universe, sorry off topic.

[NRSKarenRN]

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