[MBANurse]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

I don't think this is a political issue... I know lots of conservatives and liberals (and moderates, like me, too) who believe that social programs aimed at keeping families together are well worth the initial public $.

The irony is that these programs, which are far more humane than breaking up families, are also far less of a drain on public resources than the costs of foster placements, group homes or centers are now and even more, would be if an automatic removal system was put into place.

So you are still advocating leaving the kids out on the streets with the parents then?
Because if a family is out on the streets the kids should in fact be wards of the state.

[MBANurse]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

I didn't say that it is better for children to be on the streets and I don't appreciate you making up such a ridiculous accusation. Could we possibly stick to the truth here? If not, this discussion is nothing more than fantasy.

Actually, "this" is a discussion board, not the USA or anyplace else. I didn't say you couldn't express whatever you want, I said it isn't for you to declare what an issue is about for someone else, because you aren't qualified to make that determination. And also, maybe you could refrain from swearing at me, too? If it wouldn't be too much of an impingement upon your constitutional rights, that is...

where did I swear at you?
And it is not a ridiculous accusation. Talking about homeless kids and families... if they are homeless take the kids... thats what I said... You in turn disagreed and have stated over and over that we shouldn't seperate familes for financial reasons.

[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by MBANurse

So you are still advocating leaving the kids out on the streets with the parents then?
Because if a family is out on the streets the kids should in fact be wards of the state.

Please post where I said that anyone should be out on the streets or stop claiming that I said such a thing. Thank you.

[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by MBANurse

where did I swear at you?
And it is not a ridiculous accusation. Talking about homeless kids and families... if they are homeless take the kids... thats what I said... You in turn disagreed and have stated over and over that we shouldn't seperate familes for financial reasons.

Oh, am I repeating myself? Good thing you don't do that.

[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by MBANurse

where did I swear at you?
And it is not a ridiculous accusation. Talking about homeless kids and families... if they are homeless take the kids... thats what I said... You in turn disagreed and have stated over and over that we shouldn't seperate familes for financial reasons.

Let me be clear. I did not advocate for children to be on the streets. I am sure everyone else reading this thread knows that I don't want that to happen. I would appreciate if you would admit that you are making this accusation up, but you clearly aren't going to do that.

[ingelein]

Originally Posted by MBANurse

to assume that everyone should be nurtured for potential worth when there is so much KINETIC worth in the world is a mistake if you ask me.
You either make it... or you don't. Stand tall or fall down... its all you, In my opinion.

But you are SO wrong, My parents were given $500 by the Lutheran World Federation, with which they paid for our passage on an old Navy transport ship, my dad and mom worked two jobs and soon paid it back, BUT we were given help in getting a apartment, getting my dad into school and getting food and clothing for we children. Without the help of some kind strangers we would not have been able to get to this country.Nurturing is an admirable HUMAN trait, Im so greatful that someone took a chance on us.

[MBANurse]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

Please post where I said that anyone should be out on the streets or stop claiming that I said such a thing. Thank you.

I stated that it would be better to make the kids wards of the state if they are homeless and you have kept telling me how wrong I am to want to break up families...

So if they are homeless... like I have stated... and even bolded... why should they not be wards of the state again?

[MBANurse]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

Let me be clear. I did not advocate for children to be on the streets. I am sure everyone else reading this thread knows that I don't want that to happen. I would appreciate if you would admit that you are making this accusation up, but you clearly aren't going to do that.

I am not making anything up. Based upon your arguments against homeless children being wards of state in favor of remaining with their families what else is one to suppose?

[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by MBANurse

I stated that it would be better to make the kids wards of the state if they are homeless and you have kept telling me how wrong I am to want to break up families...

So if they are homeless... like I have stated... and even bolded... why should they not be wards of the state again?

I know what you said (after all, you did repeat it, several times, over and over...)

Disagreeing with you isn't the same as advocating for children to be homeless. You deliberately contorted my words into an ugly accusation that I'm sure no one but you believes.

[MBANurse]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

I know what you said (after all, you did repeat it, several times, over and over...)

Disagreeing with you isn't the same as advocating for children to be homeless. You deliberately contorted my words into an ugly accusation that I'm sure no one but you believes.

I didnt contort anything... I asked for clarification early on and you proceeded to tell me that "no one should want to break up families for financial reasons..." Instead of saying what you meant.


And if I did contort anything... it was in the same vein that you parsed my quote early on... about the taking of the kids; you know... where you left off the part about being homeless and proceeded to chastise me for removing kids from a home...