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Old Apr 18, 2007, 10:06 AM
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Canada's health system is as good or better than the US new research suggests

Health care just as good, half as much as in U.S., report says

Canada's health system is as good or better than that of the United States and is delivered at half the cost, new research suggests.

A review in the inaugural issue of online medical journal Open Medicine, which was launched yesterday by a group of doctors who left the Canadian Medical Association Journal last year over an editorial dispute, examined the results of 38 major studies that compared health outcomes of patients in the two countries.

It found that while the United States spent an average of $7,129 U.S. per person on health care in 2006, compared with $2,956 U.S. per person in Canada, more studies favoured the latter country in terms of morbidity and mortality. They covered a wide range of diseases and conditions, including cancer and coronary artery disease....

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/s...c163db&k=13532

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 12:19 PM
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this is really good news. I agree we should cap all medicaid recipients to $2800 dollars from tax payers. Thanks for posting the info.

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by noggin_wise View Post
this is really good news. I agree we should cap all medicaid recipients to $2800 dollars from tax payers. Thanks for posting the info.
Yes lets just cut out all social programs altogether, and we could use the money for corporate welfare instead. The sick and poor are of no consequence anyway, hey noggin?

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 10:55 AM
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Re: Canada's health system is as good or better than the US new research suggests

Corporate welfare is just as bad as any other welfare why would you want to give the money to them?

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by noggin_wise View Post
Corporate welfare is just as bad as any other welfare why would you want to give the money to them?
#1 Health care is not welfare.
#2 Every succcessful industrial democracy in the world spreads the cost of health care for all through the broad base of societally assumed risk.
#3 Good primary care reduces the cost of specialty care which reduces the cost of medicare spending.


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Old Apr 19, 2007, 02:39 PM
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Absolutely laughable!!!!!!!!! ...........try asking a an actual canadian about their health care!!

Ya know, i have been very worried that America might try the universal thing like us,...but now I am not worried anymore. Because, there is no way that American's would put up with the sh#t we do, and pay twice as much!

1 year of it, and they would be throwing crash carts into the Boston harbor!!

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by noggin_wise View Post
this is really good news. I agree we should cap all medicaid recipients to $2800 dollars from tax payers. Thanks for posting the info.
No cap of 2800 was suggested; medicaid for all is the SOLUTION, not the problem. And MEDICAID patients are taxpayers. You need to invest in reading time. Much thanks!!!!!

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Old Apr 19, 2007, 04:09 PM
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Absolutely laughable!!!!!!!!! ...........try asking a an actual canadian about their health care!!

Ya know, i have been very worried that America might try the universal thing like us,...but now I am not worried anymore. Because, there is no way that American's would put up with the sh#t we do, and pay twice as much!

1 year of it, and they would be throwing crash carts into the Boston harbor!!
OK. I AM CANADIAN, AND A NURSE IN NEW YORK. I GREW UP IN A HOSPITAL AS ALL FAMILY IS IN HEALTHCARE. READ THE STUDY - most canadians who have knowledge of both countries would prefer to get care from and work in Canada's system. Read the study!!!!!!!!INSTEAD OF JUST POSTING WITHOUT THINKING/READING FIRST. Seriously I would love to hear what experience of healthcare you have had;

Much thanks!!!!

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Old Apr 20, 2007, 12:11 PM
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Re: Canada's health system is as good or better than the US new research suggests

In spite of what they claim, that study is similar to comparing a Mercedes Benz to a Kia.

The US healthcare model is broken, of course, as many are not covered but those that are have very good healthcare. The problem is the current healthcare system can’t be scaled to healthcare for all.

On the other hand, the Canadian system covers all and is good with preventive care, but falls short with tertiary care. As an example, I just treated a Canadian citizen that came to the US for a Whipple procedure. It cost him about $110k but it was worth it for him. He said in Canada it would have been months before he was considered for treatment and even then his post treatment outcome would have been well below US standards of care.

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Old Apr 20, 2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by newyorknursey View Post
No cap of 2800 was suggested; medicaid for all is the SOLUTION, not the problem. And MEDICAID patients are taxpayers. You need to invest in reading time. Much thanks!!!!!
The government doesn't take in enough money with the current Medicaid coverage population and you think it can cover everyone?

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