[Tweety]

Originally Posted by Michigangirl

Tweety, I meant that because I already have all of the other classes done already (english comp, sociology, all of the psychologies, etc, etc...) that is what it amounts to, and I think that is pretty standard among the colleges around here. Also, from your list, it looks to be about the same if you don't count Patho and Pharm. I am actually going to an informational meeting today about the RN-BSN program, (even though I don't have my ADN finished yet), so I may come home with different information.

But I agree, its a good argument to go for the BSN. Can you lend me some money?????

I was jsut having trouble wrapping myself around the idea that "the only difference between an ADN and BSN is 20 hours".

But if you take out the Statistics, sciences and liberal arts requirements it might end up being just a "few" extra courses. I included only the nursing above, but the program really looks like this:

Cognate Component (9 credit hours)
DCHE/CHEM 101* 3 credits Principles of Chemistry
DSOC 349 3 credits Aging and Society
DENG 102 3 credits English Composition II
* Prerequisite
Nursing Component (37 credit hours)
DNRS/NRSG 326 3 credits Concepts of Professional Nursing
DNRS/NRSG 327 4 credits Health Promotion and Assessment
DNRS/NRSG 328 4 credits Principles of Pathophysiology
DNRS/NRSG 329 3 credits Pharmocology
DNRS/NRSG 446 3 credits Community Health Nursing
DNRS/NRSG 447 3 credits Population-Focused Health Promotion
DNRS/NRSG 485 3 credits Leadership and Management in Nursing
DNRS/NRSG 497 3 credits Nursing Research Methods
DNRS/NRSG 499 3 credits Seminar in Nursing
NSRG 301 5 credits Adult Health Nursing IV*
NSRG 302 3 credits Practicum*

General Education Component (20 − 26 credit hours)
DMAT/MATH 205 3 credits Introduction to Applied Statistics
DREL/RELT 368 3 credits World Religions
DREL/REL 379 3 credits Lessons on Living: Biblical Perspectives
DHIS/HIST 174/175 3 credits World Civilizations I or II
DHMN/HMNT 3 credits Humanities
DHPE/HPER 125 2 credits Health and Wellbeing
Elective
DCPT/CPTR 105 3 credits Introduction to Microcomputers*
DENG/ENGL 102 3 credits English Composition**

Being an online program you automatically got credit for the Microcomputers. Also the Adult nursing is awarded based on the fact that one is an RN already, and am not sure what that's about, but I'll take the credits. The English composition is on the list because many ADN programs in the past only required English I and not II. I fortunately had both. A third English course is required and they took an American Lit course I had.

Whenever I hear "the only difference between an ADN is just a few management courses anyway........blah blah blah......" I cringe and ask myself "what have I been doing the last two years?" LOL

ADN programs are getting harder and harder and requiring more. The students at the ADN program here have a ton of pre-reqs and co-reqs. They recently added Statistics to the requirements for an ADN. It's such that when they get out of their ADN program, they lack only one course "American Government", that is required in their ADN to BSN program, and they finish the BSN part-time in 18 months. It's almost foolish not to continue on their BSN program because it's still a community college price and a "few" more courses. But their ADN program is heavy-laden with classes it's almost a crime to awarded "only" an ADN.

end of rant.

[Michigangirl]

Originally Posted by Tweety

I was jsut having trouble wrapping myself around the idea that "the only difference between an ADN and BSN is 20 hours".


Whenever I hear "the only difference between an ADN is just a few management courses anyway........blah blah blah......" I cringe and ask myself "what have I been doing the last two years?" LOL

I apologize and I am so sorry that I did not make myself clear. I meant for those of us WHO ALREADY HAVE A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE in another field. We have already fulfilled the general education requirements, and most of the "nursing" course work. We just need those few extra non-clinical type classes to get the Bachelor of Science in NURSING!!

I attended a RN-BSN information meeting yesterday and my head was spinning! I completely admire you for going back to school for this. It is not an easy road, and I did not mean to imply that it could or should be done in only 5 classes. You have to jump through a lot of hoops, to get those 120 credit hours.

And I also stand corrected. Unless I find out otherwise, it doesn't look like most universities will give you another degree unless you take at least 30 hours of credit there, which means at least 10 classes!

I again apologize for any misunderstanding and if I have offended anyone, now I understand why!

[Tweety]

Originally Posted by Michigangirl

I attended a RN-BSN information meeting yesterday and my head was spinning! I completely admire you for going back to school for this. It is not an easy road, and I did not mean to imply that it could or should be done in only 5 classes. You have to jump through a lot of hoops, to get those 120 credit hours.

I again apologize for any misunderstanding and if I have offended anyone, now I understand why!

Understood.

Go for it. Why should I be the only one suffering. LOL

[mel421]

I also have my bachelors degree in business and have been going over the same debate. My plan is to get my ADN at the local community college, get a job at one of the local hospitals, and then finish my education. Our hospitals will pay (tuition reimbursement) for continuing education. Just a thought you may want to consider.

[scrubing77]

I myself just graduated from an ADN program. I have been a surgical tech for 9 years, the program i went to for that certificate had some A&P and biology but with no lab portion (that has changed now). But when i started back for my ADN i started from nothing when it came to college credits. The program i attended was very hard to get into and has a very high pass rate on NCLEX (100% last year first try). I have always planed to go on and get my BSN and get my masters in Nurse anesthetist.
But for me money was an issue and i know if i went on for my ADN first then i could let the hospital i worked at foot the bill. Then i could come out working as an RN then go back finish my BSN and then go on. As for my program i was required to take English 101 and 102 and one of the electives i took was sociology which i knew from my own research of RN to BSN programs in my area was required so killed 2 birds with one stone. Also talking to many colleges on there RN to BSN programs most in the city of Chicago only allow 70 to 80 credit hours from your ADN program so.

[yellow finch]

I had a BA in Dev. Psych/Fine Arts. Fairly useless and boring degrees. I spent many years in a unique field far removed from nursing. One day I decided to make a change, and determined that nursing was the way to go after a while of searching.

While taking pre-reqs for nursing, an advisor asked me why I was going for a BSN and not the ADN that they offered. It all came down to the fact that I already held a baccalaureate degree, and could not go for anything less than the same. I was accepted into one of the accelerated BSN programs. I'm now working on my FNP degree without having to go the RN to BSN route.

It truly is your decision. However, since you are capable of baccalaureate level studies, why not go for the same again? There are options out there.

Best of luck to you!

[Michigangirl]

Originally Posted by yellow finch

It truly is your decision. However, since you are capable of baccalaureate level studies, why not go for the same again? There are options out there.

Respectfully, I really don't think an ADN is a dumbed-down version for people that aren't capable of university-level classes. At least I hope not!

[olivia28]

Once again, it all boils down to choice. I have a BS degree, work full time, have a child to support, blah, blah blah. I chose the ADN route simply because I could not afford to go to school full time as a single mother and none of the accelerated programs in my area were offering part-time or evening programs. It also did not hurt to be offered a scholarship for an ADN program and a guaranteed job after passing the NCLEX. Yes it will take me longer to achieve my ultimate goals, but I am on the path. Many people outside of these boards who desire to be a nurse cannot even say that much. I applaud anyone who is able to go after their dreams!

[mel421]

{While taking pre-reqs for nursing, an advisor asked me why I was going for a BSN and not the ADN that they offered. It all came down to the fact that I already held a baccalaureate degree, and could not go for anything less than the same. I was accepted into one of the accelerated BSN programs. I'm now working on my FNP degree without having to go the RN to BSN route.}

Why is it that you could only go for the BSN since you already had a bachelors degree? I have my bachelors and the only thing that I couldn't do with the ADN program was take out federal loans due to going to a Community College and exceeding their max number of credits allowed. I'm not disagreeing with you I am just curious. I know a lot of people in my program that are going for their ADN in hopes of finding a job that will pay for their continuing education. Everyone has a different path to follow.

[hennesm81]

Food for thought...