[Michele G.]

Getting a BSN, MSN or doctorate is hard work. But when I'm sick, I really don't care about your degree. I just want you to know what you're doing.


I agree, I worked with some LPN's that have 30 years of experience too, and they sometimes know more than the ASN and BSN nurses. Also I have found that some of the BSN nurses that graduated the same year as the ASN nurses, just did not know as much as the ASN nurses, and some of the ASN nurses that came from the the same school, just seamed to be more compassionate and have better bedside manners. So it really depends on the individual school and their programs.

Michele

[aileenve]

The medical field need every nurse they can get and experience is priceless, I have an ADN and 12yrs experience, I would rather have an experienced nurse over an inexperienced BSN or an MSN every time! This profession is on the job training basically

[cammy429]

Please let me know what they are because I called my old professor to ask and she said they were converted to ADN programs

Originally Posted by SBUalum03

Actually NY does have diploma schools...I researched a few in the NYC metro area, but they didn't appeal to me. Just wanted to let you know in case you might want to research them.

[Nurse212]

Originally Posted by cammy429

Please let me know what they are because I called my old professor to ask and she said they were converted to ADN programs

Cammy there are about 2 schools in NY state that still offer Diploma Nursing, is it practical now a days? Not too much. Do they exist? Yes. Here they are:

Arnot Ogden Medical Center - School of Nursing
600 Roe Avenue
Elmira, NY 14905

Phone: (607) 737-4153
Fax: (607) 737-4116
Contact us

NLNAC Accreditation

Degrees/Specialties

Accreditation
NLNAC Accredited Nursing

Diploma Programs
Diploma RN

Associate's
LPN-to-Associate's Degree in Nursing

Bachelor's
Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN)

AND

Branford Hall Career Institute - Bohemia

Branford Hall Career Institute , with campuses conveniently located in CT, MA, NY, offers degree and certificate programs with state-of-the-art, computer driven technologies in the field of Healthcare and Information Technology.

Offering Healthcare programs in: Massage Therapy, Medical Assistant, Medical Billing & Coding, Nursing, Nursing (Certificate)

[cammy429]

I just wanted to know just for the hell of it. I just finished an ADN program and found out that I passed the nclex today :hatparty: . But its always good to know. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Nurse212

Cammy there are about 2 schools in NY state that still offer Diploma Nursing, is it practical now a days? Not too much. Do they exist? Yes. Here they are:

Arnot Ogden Medical Center - School of Nursing
600 Roe Avenue
Elmira, NY 14905

Phone: (607) 737-4153
Fax: (607) 737-4116
Contact us

NLNAC Accreditation

Degrees/Specialties

Accreditation
NLNAC Accredited Nursing

Diploma Programs
Diploma RN

Associate's
LPN-to-Associate's Degree in Nursing

Bachelor's
Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN)

AND

Branford Hall Career Institute - Bohemia

Branford Hall Career Institute , with campuses conveniently located in CT, MA, NY, offers degree and certificate programs with state-of-the-art, computer driven technologies in the field of Healthcare and Information Technology.

Offering Healthcare programs in: Massage Therapy, Medical Assistant, Medical Billing & Coding, Nursing, Nursing (Certificate)

[SBUalum03]

Originally Posted by cammy429

Please let me know what they are because I called my old professor to ask and she said they were converted to ADN programs

Beth Isreal School of Nursing
Manhattan

Long Island College Hospital School of Nursing
Brooklyn

Helen Fund School of Nursing
Manhattan or the Bronx

The top two are very competitive programs and very well known programs, I just thought it was wierd that your professor never heard of them. Congrats on your NCLEX

[cammy429]

I think that Beth Israel and LICH are ADN now because I applied there before I started school elsewhere and I know someone that goes to Beth Israel now also. I have heard of the other one but I am not sure.

Thanks for the congrats... i am so excited..can't wait to start working

Originally Posted by SBUalum03

Beth Isreal School of Nursing
Manhattan

Long Island College Hospital School of Nursing
Brooklyn

Helen Fund School of Nursing
Manhattan or the Bronx

The top two are very competitive programs and very well known programs, I just thought it was wierd that your professor never heard of them. Congrats on your NCLEX

[cammy429]

And to everyone else that was inquiring according to the NYSNA Board which is what i just looked up there is only ONE diploma program left in the whole state of New York... here is the website for NYSNA:
http://www.nysna.org/PROGRAMS/NED/schools/diploma.htm

Originally Posted by SBUalum03

Beth Isreal School of Nursing
Manhattan

Long Island College Hospital School of Nursing
Brooklyn

Helen Fund School of Nursing
Manhattan or the Bronx

The top two are very competitive programs and very well known programs, I just thought it was wierd that your professor never heard of them. Congrats on your NCLEX

[Soleilpie]

I didn’t read all the previous posts, so I apologize in advance if this has already been stated.
It doesn't make any sense to require new nurses to have a BSN, especially since there's such a huge nursing shortage. Instead of getting new nurses out in 2 years, it'll take 4 years. The only real difference between an ADN and a BSN is more management and research knowledge on top of a chemistry class or two. That doesn't mean that BSN nurses make better nurses. Are they looking for more nurses or more nurses with management and research knowledge? I'm all for education and getting a BSN if it's feasible, but I don't agree with ending the 2 year nursing programs.

[DeniseRNBSN]

Originally Posted by Falon

I can concede that you do have point. I mean, while I think that requiring a master's degree for an elementary level school teacher is ridiculous. The fact is that no one would even consider allowing a teacher into a classroom with anything less than a Bachelor's. It isn't even an issue. Isn't nursing just as important if not more so than teaching? I see what your getting at. However, that said requiring a uniform level of education amongst all nurses will not guarantee automatic respect. I still believe that sexism does play a large role in the bias against viewing nursing with the same level of repsect as some male dominated professions. Also, why ask for respect? Aren't nurses in the position to demand it at this point?

The world needs REALLY needs you all so desperately. Why is it that nurses don't use this to their advantage?

I totally agree with your post.
Nursing is not taking seriously because there are so many ways to become a nurse. It only takes 1 year to say that you are a nurse.

Name one other job where you can go to a vocation/technical school for one year and become a PROFESSIONAL and be treated with the utmost dignity and respect?

I can't name a one. That's why nurses don't get the respect or the money that we deserve. That's why there is no difference in pay between a diploma grad and a BSN.

Yes, there is a nursing shortage and there will probably always be one but does that mean we cut the education level to achieve the goal of more nurses?
There is no way that medical schools will cut their education requirement because of a physician shortage. Does it take one year to become a lawyer, teacher, chemist, engineer? (I could go on).

Nurses should not sell ourselves short by only requiring one year to become a nurse. I think New York is doing the right thing by requiring their nurses to have a BSN.

When ALL nurses are on the same playing field educationally we can then command more autonomy, respect, and monetary incentives.


Denise RN, BSN, CCRN