[Tweety]

Originally Posted by Jami_Jared

Tweety .....Why are you pursuing you BSN? I am just curious? or nosy??

I originally wanted to take advantage of BSN preferred positions away from the bedside where I currently work. They have jobs in quality, safety, education, case management, and management that are shut out to ADN nurses. I know because I tried to get one of those jobs last year a year into my BSN programs and they said "not until you get your BSN". I want to have options away from the bedside as I age in nursing and can't physically do bedside nursing anymore.

I have since decided I want to teach and am probably going on for the MSN.

I've 15 years of med-surg experience, I'm certified in many things and getting the BSN really isn't going to help me at the bedside or enhance my bedside skills.

So I'm a bit of both. I defend the BSN when people say "it's just a couple more useless courses, good only if you want to go into management". And I staunchly defend my ADN when I read "BSN nurses are better nurses and have better outcomes than ADNs who are just technical nurses".

[blueheaven]

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[nursinguy]

Originally Posted by lizz

Why would any California nurse, at least, want to screw that up when they're already making the highest nursing wages and have the best working conditions in the country?

This is in light of the fact we also have the Highest home costs in the country.

If you compare our pay ratio to our housing costs I doubt we make out better than nurses in other states.

[nursinguy]

Doesn't the ANA recomend that BSN is the entery level for nurses?

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by nursinguy

Doesn't the ANA recomend that BSN is the entery level for nurses?

Consider the source. They will also recommend Hillary for President.

~faith,
Timothy.

[gravel_gertie]

ADN vs. BSN....A nurse is a nurse! However, our ICU department manager has a BSN, has been a nurse for 10 years, but has no clue what is going on in ICU. We have seen her walk past the door of a bleeding patient and dodge codes like the plague. BSN is no better than ADN. What makes the difference is the character of the person/nurse, not the title.

[nursinguy]

Originally Posted by gravel_gertie

ADN vs. BSN....A nurse is a nurse! However, our ICU department manager has a BSN, has been a nurse for 10 years, but has no clue what is going on in ICU. We have seen her walk past the door of a bleeding patient and dodge codes like the plague. BSN is no better than ADN. What makes the difference is the character of the person/nurse, not the title.

Nurse is a Nurse but more education can't be a bad thing.

[nursinguy]

Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA

Consider the source. They will also recommend Hillary for President.

~faith,
Timothy.

lol, I rather die than vote for her.

[Sheri257]

Originally Posted by nursinguy

This is in light of the fact we also have the Highest home costs in the country.

If you compare our pay ratio to our housing costs I doubt we make out better than nurses in other states.

Well ... I guess I'm always going to have this argument when it comes to living in California.

It's like anywhere else, really. You can go to any town and live in the most expensive areas and potentially lose money by locking yourself into a monster mortgage or, you can move to the cheaper, fast growing areas, lock in a cheap mortgage and cash in on the wage growth.

I have no complaints because I did the latter. I'm extremely happy with the wage growth in my area of California and I think staffing ratios have done a lot to raise nursing wages in this state because it increases demand for nursing positions.

I also believe that the ratio law will increase demand for nursing positions and pay even more next year when the ratios are lowered further ...

[blueheaven]

Originally Posted by BoonersMom

Regardless of NCLEX pass rates ( my school has 93%)...I simply cannot afford the University tuitions around here...even at U of MD. I'd love to go to Johns Hopkins but uhhh...I can barely afford my ADN tuition. I don't qualify for much either and the pell grant I got was very small ( and I mean small). I also got a very small ( and again I mean SMALL) state delegate scholarship ( it paid for 1/2 my A+P book..that's how small).When I say I can barely afford it- I mean I can barely afford the tuition + books for ONE class...I am applying for Spring tuition this fall and already am putting $$$ aside for the tuition + books+supplies, etc etc etc. I do plan on appying for the state tuition+ living expenses grant as long as I promise to work for the state for 2 years...BUT I cannot apply for it until I am accepted into the clinical portion AND I won't get any $$$ until that Fall...so for Spring, if I get in, I am on my own. My school does have it's own scholarships but they are not merit based..only need..and they only look at your yearly income - not the gadzillion bills you have to pay with them...so again I was not accepted.

I understand the financial aspect of it all. I do plan on getting my MSN eventually- however, from the looks of it, that will be after I work for awhile and am able to afford more..unless I am granted a nice scholarship eventually.

BTW we don't have a waiting list system either...it's purely GPA.

The GPA thing kinda stinks too. I got my 3 year diploma in nursing in 1978 and I was young, having multiple problems going on in my life, partying a little on the side so my GPA stinks. Never mind that I have gotten excellent evaluations and completed projects and inservices etc. since working. Never mind that I placed in the top 5% when I took my NLN tests and boards. :PPPPP
As for the loan thing, as another poster has written, my credit score is still in the sewer from previous bad decisions made in a previous relationship. It's getting better though
My hospital will PAY 100% for me to go back to school but it requires a 2 year obligation after graduation. I am taking it a little at a time and eventually I will get there