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  #161  
Old Oct 23, 2006, 09:54 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

Bottom line for me is I can't take the 80k loss to go straight to BSN route, I'll have to do the bridge even if it takes longer.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 10:11 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

I chose my ADN program because it was most economical, closer to my home, and I had already attended that CC before for general college credits.

I have to admit that I knew very little about nursing...much less the debate over ADNs vs. BSNs, LPNs vs. RNs, etc. etc. I only learned that HERE.

I have NO regrets. I feel I have received an amazing education. I am able to enter the workforce somewhat sooner, and I will have more floor experience while pursuing my BSN. That's a good fit for ME.

I don't like the debates either. As an ADN student...I really don't know what a BSN direct entry program is like so I can't say that mine is better or worse. In the same respect, a BSN student can not judge my program and claim to be superior. The whole thing is just ridiculous.

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Old Oct 23, 2006, 11:37 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

IMHO, all RN's take the same NCLEX. I work as an aide and I don't ask the nurses I work with if they have an ADN or BSN. When I was a pt recently, I didn't ask the nurses taking care of me what degree they had.

On another note, I have seen LPN's who give much much better care than RN's and vise versa. It depends on what you take out of school and how much you love nursing.

I will be applying for the ADN program because I choose to. My goal is to be a nurse ASAP. I then will go back and get my BSN so I can go to law school. I will continue to live with my parents until I graduate. Would you want to be 31 and still live with your parents? Many on this site have flamed me for my decision but it's my decision.

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  #164  
Old Oct 24, 2006, 05:18 AM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

Originally Posted by bethin
I will continue to live with my parents until I graduate. Would you want to be 31 and still live with your parents? Many on this site have flamed me for my decision but it's my decision.


If anyone 'flames' anyone else about living at home, getting an ADN instead of a BSN, etc, then tell them to come pay your bills for you.



As far as I can see, unless a nurse's name has "NP" or "Dr" with it, "RN = RN" Get over it. You still have to follow someone else's orders just like an ADN does.

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 09:07 AM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

I have been on this site off and on for the last 3-4 years and this argument is so old. I have read many threads regarding the big BSN v ADN debate and mostly they are ridiculous and it remind me high school or possibly even elementary school.
When I started school 17 years ago, the BSN was not an option. Not only did I have a small child and a husband but there were no BSN programs within a 100 mi radius of me. Part way through school I did move to an area where I could have entered a BSN program but then I would have had to of crossed the state line which would have meant out of state tuition and from financial standpoint, we just could not do it so I finished with an ADN. Upon finishing my ADN I had 94 college credits. Since that time I have taken some online classes toward a degree in health promotion.
Is the BSN better than the ADN or is the ADN better than the BSN??? This I do not know. What I do know is that some of the worst nurses I have worked with have been BSNs and some ADNs. Likewise, some of the best nurses I have worked with have been BSNs and some ADNs. Success in the workplace does not depend on the letters after your name, it is highly individualized. Should BSNs get more money??? IMHO, no. They do the same job as the ADN.. period. The skill and critical thinking is the same.. you are getting paid to care for patients not because of the letters after your name.
The only thing that I take issue with in regards to all of this "discussion" is that I am a little tired of hearing what I can not doin the field since I "only" have my ADN. When I worked in the hospital, I was a charge nurse 90 percent of the time. I have worked as a medicare unit manager in a subacute facility and I have also been a community case manager for a disease management program. I currently work in workers compensation as a case manager and I have my own business as a legal nurse consultant which has profitable for the last 5 years. Now... I have read many many post stating that based on my education, I should not be able to do these things. I am here to tell you.. I have done them and I am doing it.
As I said before, much of anyone's success in any field depends on the person.. personality, intelligence, motivation.
I have always thought I would not post anything in these arguments because it makes no difference to me why anyone chooses which route but I, as I said, I am tired of reading what my limitations are. If there ever comes a day when a BSN is required for me to reach my goals/ dreams I will pursue it..

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Old Oct 24, 2006, 09:15 AM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

Originally Posted by emrrn915
I have been on this site off and on for the last 3-4 years and this argument is so old. I have read many threads regarding the big BSN v ADN debate and mostly they are ridiculous and it remind me high school or possibly even elementary school.


Agreed.

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Old Oct 25, 2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

If anyone 'flames' anyone else about living at home, getting an ADN instead of a BSN, etc, then tell them to come pay your bills for you.
Exactly.

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Old Oct 25, 2006, 02:42 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

That is my intention as well
Originally Posted by suzy253
Agree with you 100% on that Richele. I'm 52, in a diploma program, will have no problem getting employment afterwards and if I wish to pursue it, I'll go for a degree later on with the hospital paying for it.

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Old Oct 25, 2006, 03:19 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

In the end, we will all be nurses!! Some of us with an ADN, others with BSN.

I do plan on hopefully moving towards my BSN eventually, but I have a FT job, a husband, a daughter, a house, a dog (the list goes on and on). Right now, the ADN program will do it for me.

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Old Oct 25, 2006, 03:23 PM
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Re: sick of ADN vs BSN! like most of us have a choice anyway!

At this last place I worked, I was told by the Education Coordinator of this facility that they should do away with all LPNs and ADNs. Why? Well, because as a nurse you should try to attain the highest level of learning that you can. I told her that I have heard valid arguments for both sides of the coin and that I respectfully did not agree with her. I am an ADN, and some of the best nurses I know are LPNs. It's arrogant to think that only BSN nurses should be doing bedside care. Just my take on the issue.

Pam

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