[BETSRN]

Originally Posted by Tony35NYC

Well, I don't see my BSN degree as a waste of time. You do learn things about management, budgeting, organization, wellness and community health, professional writing, and nursing research that are not taught in ADN programs. You also learn pathophysiology and assessment skills that are more advanced than what is taught in a 2-year program.

Yes, its true that an RN is an RN, but it is also true that in many places, if you have a BSN you get first dibs at most opportunities for advancement in your nursing career, ahead of ADN-RNs who've been in nursing for many more years than you.

Tony, I think you have shared some pretty BOGUS information here.

[BETSRN]

Originally Posted by Tony35NYC

Well, I don't see my BSN degree as a waste of time. You do learn things about management, budgeting, organization, wellness and community health, professional writing, and nursing research that are not taught in ADN programs. You also learn pathophysiology and assessment skills that are more advanced than what is taught in a 2-year program.

Yes, its true that an RN is an RN, but it is also true that in many places, if you have a BSN you get first dibs at most opportunities for advancement in your nursing career, ahead of ADN-RNs who've been in nursing for many more years than you.

Your BSN certainly will NOT be a waste of time. However, if you are sitting back, resting on your laurels, figuring you will be a better (more competant) nurse because you have a BSN (and all this additional more extensive training that you mention), you are in for a rude awakening. When you have to cut it as a staff nurse and really perform on your own, you may not make the grade. Book smarts is only a small portion of nursing, I'm afraid.

[blueheaven]

Why don't you just do a RN to MSN program? Takes same amount of time and you get to your goal quicker. I have a diploma with MANY years of experience and I am unable to move upward because I don't have "BSN" after my name. I am looking into a local university program here and I just want to cut through the crap and get to my goal. Good Luck!!!

[Tweety]

never mind. Thanks.

[Marie_LPN]

Originally Posted by blueheaven

Why don't you just do a RN to MSN program? Takes same amount of time and you get to your goal quicker. I have a diploma with MANY years of experience and I am unable to move upward because I don't have "BSN" after my name. I am looking into a local university program here and I just want to cut through the crap and get to my goal. Good Luck!!!

I love how people say "why don't you just do this". Like it's that simple, no big deal, etc.

I'm out of here.

[Jessy_RN]

Education is never wasted!-need not say more Do what you have to do to get where you want to be. To many an ADN is not where they'd like to stop to some it is (Either way it is fine, and it should be what YOU want). Forget what others say and about the entire battle of the degrees, stop wasting useful energy. End of post

[anointedj]

an ADN is Associate Degree in Nursing which is a two year program to become an RN.

[caroladybelle]

Originally Posted by anointedj

an ADN is Associate Degree in Nursing which is a two year program to become an RN.

Actually, in most places, it is a three year program.

[Princess74]

Ok let me put my 2 cents in here.

As far as ASN/BSN both degrees usually take 4 years to finish. Two years of pre-reqs and 2 years of nursing classes. The only difference I see in the programs is BSN students have to take a foreign language, art classes, music classes, history classes and more electives. There is not hardly ANY difference in the nursing portion of the program. There is possibly a bit more focus on management and research in a BSN program.
I am in in the process of taking my prereqs for an ASN program. I would love to transfer from my CC to a University and get my BSN but the only reason I am considering it is because when I'm 50 or 60 I may not be able to handle bedside nursing anymore and BSN is prefered if not required for everything else. I have no desire to go into management, Adm etc... at this time. But I may somewhere down the road.

Its to bad that we(nurses in general) all spend so much time and money on our education and still believe that so and so is better than me because they have this degree and I don't.
I most likely will stick to an ASN program right now and go for a BSN or MSN program later, because honestly I just flat out don't want to take all the extra general edu classes at this time. It would probably take me atleast 2 more semesters to finish all the language and history classes. I have no desire to ever learn another language and lets just say history and world civ are not much of a intrest to me either.

[SusanJean]

Originally Posted by BETSRN

I believe that 2 years is a Master's degree, however.

This was in reference to P.A. programs. Believe it or not, there are still a few associate degree programs out there,(tho a bach, or "near bach degree is required for admission) some bach., most have moved to masters level. All sit for the same exam for lisc., according to published info, pass rate is much higher (first time) for the higher ed. programs. (at least the last I reviewed, a few yrs ago.)
However, the entire profession is moving to standardize to a master's level for education - in order for the PA profession to enhance its image and keep up w/ the times (more sophisticated medical field, etc.). I applaud their ability to "raise the bar" for their profession. Also, the students attending the programs are far different than the original PA students - originally the program was for those leaving the military w/ extensive medical experience. Today's PA students are often new grads (BA/BS) w/ a minimum of medical experience (varies school to school for requirements.) So, the profession is changing w/ the times.
I wanted to attend PA school for yrs, but did not want to put all the time into the prereqs, then school, for another bach degree. The year I learned the local PA school upgraded to a master's, I started working on prereqs. (In all fairness, was looking at career options, and was orig considering master's in ed. to teach. But then realized local PA program changed, and prereqs to teach science/math would have been about the same for PA prereqs - so opted to fulfill longtime dream.)
After attending for a semester, decided this was not what I wanted, so decided to go the nursing route - and am so happy I did! How I want to work in the medical field is more in line w/ the nursing philosophy.
So, here I am, working on another bach degree - but then I will have the option to further my education as time permits.

SJ
sorry for typos, grammer errors - fighting hugh headache.