[ali_gator]

Originally Posted by JCButler

I am an RN with an ADN, I have worked M/S, ER, ICU, Charge positions, and supervision and can tell you there is not any difference in ADN and BSN when it comes to staff nursing.
Yes, there is a differance in BSN and ADN, more booklearning. The best RN is an Aid which went to ADN then on to the BSN or the Diploma trained nurse. A streight through BSN has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

Now this just isn't true. My B.S.N. program includes three years of clinicals, at about sixteen hours a week. I'm going to get just as much clinical time as anyone in an ADN program.

[ali_gator]

Originally Posted by Marie_LPN

BY OTHER NURSES, no doubt.

Yes, absolutely. The division of the nursing profession by nurses has been written about by many in nursing books and nursing journals. In my experience, people often find any exuse for one-upmanship that they can. Good example: My husband is a CG Visual Effects Artist, and the other artists he works with often try to argue over who is superior over what software package they use!! (No, I'm not kidding.)

I'm not diminishing anyone in nursing, as there are great nurses of all educational backrounds...I just feel that a push for higher education would give people less of an excuse for these dumb one-upmanship games.

[JCButler]

Originally Posted by gwt

No education is wasted!!! ASN is core nursing skills training. BSN is advanced critical thinking nursing. The extra psych, advanced chem, pharmacology are worth the experience and make some concepts easier. The management and human resource classes are priceless if you are palnning on moving along.
G

I will agree no education is ever wasted, there is a better way to train nurses in my humble opnion.

[Rita Marie]

Originally Posted by nursingyoursoul

Would someone tell me what ADN is?

Associate Degree of Nursing

[z's playa]

A streight through BSN has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

Don't lump all BSN course content together. Just because one school does it a certain way doesn't mean they all do. I get a car load of pt contact and will continue to throughout my course. (BSN in RN)

Z

[mwbeah]

Originally Posted by z's playa

A streight through BSN has only books to rely on with little to no acutal patient contact.

Don't lump all BSN course content together. Just because one school does it a certain way doesn't mean they all do. I get a car load of pt contact and will continue to throughout my course. (BSN in RN)

Z

I say pick what works for you, in my humble opinion, credentials are never bad as they allow you to move up the food chain. I have 4 secondary degrees and am working on my 5th.

I say the more you stand still..........the more you stand still

JMTOT,
Mike

[mwbeah]

Also, don't forget about the ADN to MSN programs out there (137 of them).

Mike

[grannynurse FNP student]

Originally Posted by SusanJean

You are a wealth of info! Please post citations... I would like to read the information.
THanks,
SJ

Here it is

Nursing Education Perspectives, Jan-Feb 2005, v26, i1, pg 18

Grannynurse

[Kabin]

I recently read the county community college district was looking into offering BSN degrees. There isn't much difference between ADN and BSN so it makes sense. I'd bet if there were more BSN slots many more would opt for the BSN.

[jsteine1]

Originally Posted by JennInColumbus

I really think this is one of those issues that is very personal. It's about your goals, not what anyone else thinks.

While there are advantages to more schooling that include ease of promotion and higher pay in some cases, there are exceptions to every rule.

My mom is a diploma RN. She is the vice president of a multistate health care corporation. There are many who would say that a diploma grad couldn't rise through the ranks like that, but obviously that isn't always true.

I, on the other hand, will graduation with my ADN in September. I plan to get my BSN because my end goal is CRNA school.

When it comes to education beyond attaining your RN, there is no one answer for everyone. However, I would never say that furthering your education (nurse or otherwise) is a waste of time.

Jen, I did the same as your mom. However, I rose to the executive level due to experience and a successful track record in sales, marketing, startups, turnarounds, and a host of other business skills obtained in my earlier years. I think your mom would agree, that if we attempted to start that career path today, without the business track record, it would be infinately more difficult without advanced credentials, perhaps simply due to the fact that those competing for the same opportunities likely have advanced nursing or business degrees.