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Sep 15, 2007, 06:29 AM
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Re: Does this article prove that BSN nurses are safer than ASN?
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Okay I decided I had to go play with numbers because the study protocol was too full of the conclusions and not the actual variables or percentages.
I am tired it is late .
I went to JAMA to get them.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/290/12/1617?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&full text=Educational+Levels+of+Hospital+Nurses+and+Sur gical+Patient+Mortality&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&re sourcetype=HWCIT
Results The proportion ofhospital RNs holding a bachelor's degree or higher ranged from 0% to 77% across the hospitals. After adjusting for patient characteristics andhospital structural characteristics (size, teaching status, level of technology), as well as for nurse staffing, nurse experience, and whether the patient's surgeon was board certified, a 10% increase in the proportion ofnurses holding a bachelor's degree was associated with a 5% decrease in both the likelihood ofpatients dying within 30 days of admission and the odds of failure to rescue (odds ratio, 0.95; 95% confidence interval, 0.91-0.99 in both cases).
Conclusion In hospitals with higher proportions ofnurses educated at the baccalaureate level or higher.
Kathy’s study protocol
BSN/ MSN nurses tended to work in the high tech/ teaching hospitals and to have lower ratios of nurse to patient 4:1 as compared with the ADN at 8:1.
In the Jama Article we note this:
Nurse understaffing is ranked by the public and physicians as one of the greatest threats to patient safety in US hospitals.1 Last year we reported the results of a study of 168 Pennsylvania hospitals showing that each additional patient added to the average workload of staff registered nurses (RNs) increased the risk of death following common surgical procedures by 7%, and that the risk of death was more than 30% higher in hospitals where nurses' mean workloads were 8 patients or more each shift than in hospitals where nurses cared for 4 or fewer patients.
So I stop right there all flustered thinking. Why are we wasting money on research at this point in time (healthcare CRISIS) to discredit 50% of the profession that the doctors and population say are understaffed to the point of being “ greatest threats to patient safety in US hospitals.”
The research done last year on this is showing what percentages of death. Per patient increase’s
WISDOM is crying in the streets does nobody hear ?
Are we too busy smacking our lips in academia to stop and see we are DYING. GAW…
THIS stupid disrespected ADNs results go like this
JAMA HERE are MY RESULTS:
YOU ARE JAMA DOE AND I AM YOUR NURSE
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 5 patients so your chances of dying is 7% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 6 patients so your chances of dying is 14% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 7 patients so your chances of dying is 21% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 8 patients so your chances of dying is 28% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 9 patients so your chances of dying is 35% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 10 patients so your chances of dying is 42% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMADoe I have 11 patients so your chances of dying is 49% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 12 patients so your chances of dying is 56% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 13 patients so your chances of dying is 63% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 14 patients so your chances of dying is 70% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 15patients so your chances of dying is 77% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 16 patients so your chances of dying is 84% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 17 patients so your chances of dying is 91% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 18 patients so your chances of dying is 98% higher than you and I would like but.
Today PT JAMA Doe I have 19 patients AND YOU WERE GONNA DIE , but NOW your chances of LIVING ARE 5 % because I have a BSN.
What JAMA DOE?
Why do I have so many patients?
Well….CAUSE ..I am so smart …Better than all the rest.
I FORCED the States shut down all those silly Associate Nurse and Diploma nurse Facilities. you know? Those archecturally inncorrect buildings that TEACH STUPID FOLKS THINGS THEY SHOULDA LEARNED IN HIGH SCHOOL? They didn’t even have a SIGMA RAMA FIFI…JAMA?
I striped them of their licenses too, cause they were not professional JAMA. They didn't go to a University.
What JAMA?
GET them??
You don’t need them you have me….
Besides told them where to move. I am just the smartest thing.
A vast desert full of cactus juice…It is a wonderful place called Las Vegas.
Why they open up a new facility there every week. Plenty of fancy jobs and water down there to recycle. The benefits are great cause most those fancy casino’s are Forbes 100 company voted top places to work.
All they need is a Food Handler’s Permit and a course or 16 in Spanish.
OH dear JAMA? JAMA DOE JAMA DOE OH NO
……….CODE BLUE >>>>CODE BLUE…………
GET THE CODE TEAM IN HERE STAT I AM A NEW GRAD!!!!!
WHAT??
WHEN …….CAUSE JAMA DOE BE DYING?….
at oh ………………….your coding my other 19 patients???
shucks.
Note these are statistics not facts. It is the stupid disrespected conclusion of a probated ADN.
Dying + crisis= Action
Decreased patient ratios should be our focus in a crisis not difficulty controlled and poorly conducted waste of money disputing who is better than who in the name of experience and education levels.
Last edited by leslymill : Sep 15, 2007 at 07:11 AM.
Reason: I can't get the font down
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Apr 11, 2008, 01:33 PM
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Re: Does this article prove that BSN nurses are safer than ASN?
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we have so many nurses that come to this county with a work visa
what kind of schooling or experience do they have.
why are we so critical of the nurses educated in this country.
give us a break!
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