[cottoncandyclouds]

Hi all.

I just wanted to say that nurses with BSN's in my opinion should be paid more, and have preference in the hiring process. In community college they basically pay you to go, and at a University, you take on soooo many student loans. The upper division classes are much more difficult at a University and I truly feel it's unfair to group the two (BSN, and community) together. It's completley different. I have heard that there are some states that requrire a BSN if that's true, I think it's great.
Bye for now.

[kmchugh]

Is that ticking I hear? Do I smell smoke? RUN, its a BOMB!!
KM

[cottoncandyclouds]

University today....... your boss tomorrow

[orrnlori]

Originally Posted by cottoncandyclouds

Hi all.

I just wanted to say that nurses with BSN's in my opinion should be paid more, and have preference in the hiring process. In community college they basically pay you to go, and at a University, you take on soooo many student loans. The upper division classes are much more difficult at a University and I truly feel it's unfair to group the two (BSN, and community) together. It's completley different. I have heard that there are some states that requrire a BSN if that's true, I think it's great.
Bye for now.

Well, you're just going to make friends left and right here on this board. You are afforded your opinion here but don't be offended if you get some replies you don't like. I'll tell you what, I'll agree with your premise the first day that a BSN has to take a more difficult NCLEX exam to get her license AND she takes more difficult patient's on the floor. Deal?

[Sheri257]

I realize this is an old topic, and maybe this thread will be deleted. But I have a slightly different question on the issue. Is a BSN really a BSN anymore? I'm talking about all of these accelerated BSN programs.

I don't know about other programs, but the BSN program in my area only requires an extra semester than the surrounding ADN programs. You don't need another degree or anything else besides basic pre-reqs. Because this program is so short, it basically emphasizes more theory and less clinicals than the surrounding ADN programs.

Normally I would agree that a BSN is better, assuming that it's a four year program involving more theory, clinical training, etc. But if accelerated BSN programs are becoming so abbreviated, you have to wonder about what does a BSN really mean anymore?

I raise this issue not so much to debate ADN versus BSN, but to examine these accelerated BSN programs and what that really means. If the time frame is basically the same, is an accelerated BSN really that different from an ADN these days? Except, perhaps, emphasis on different areas and a different title?

I'm not saying that accelerated BSNs are a bad thing. I just wondering if we're debating titles more than anything else.

[navynurse29]

I am only going to reply to this once: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!

[kmchugh]

Originally Posted by cottoncandyclouds

University today....... your boss tomorrow

I doubt it, Sunshine, since I have my MSNA. I've just never noticed any difference in the quality of care patients receive from either ADN or BSN nurses.

KM

[anonny27]

wouldn't want to offend anyone

[eak16]

who cares??! there is sooo much more to life (and nursing) than status...
off to start my shift.....

[Sheri257]

Originally Posted by anonny27

But the accelerated BSN isn't just the prereqs + ADN program.

My point was that the accelerated BSN program in my area essentially is prereqs + an ADN, with an additional semester. They don't require another bachelor's degree. Only pre-reqs which are, essentially, the same as the ADN programs in the area. (The pre-reqs for all of the schools, BSN or ADN, vary a little but not much. They all have the same core science requirements.)

So basically you can get a BSN in this program with just one extra semester. However, if this is not the norm, then I guess this particular program is unusual, even though it is the major state university in the area.