[ashlynurse]

WELL WELL WELL... did we all not take the same NCLEX exam ??? Just wondering... a nurse is a nurse. Personally I graduated with my ADN, and now working on my MSN. There should be no shame on folks that graduated with their diploma, BSN, or otherwise. Whatever path you took... we have all ended up at the same place..... RN's. Yes, I do agree that for many mgt. postions they prefer BSN or higher... to eachs own.

[speckRN]

I believe that yes BSN's for the most part should be at a higher rate of pay, mostly because of the amount of schooling and costs incurred. However, I do not think that simply because someone has a bachelor's over an associate degree should give preferential in hiring. I am an ADN and currently am working on my BSN. I work on a unit that has several BSN nurses, and not one but all of them come to me for help in situations that they should be able to handle. Just recently they found out that I was currently working on my BSN and told me they thought I had already had my BSN. I also find that we have a few LPN's on our unit that way out qualify many of our other staff and can run circles around them. Many of our ADN staff get more clinical during school than our BSN and have a better grasp for hands on.

[MD1211]

What do you call an RN with her ADN?
A: an RN

What do you call an RN with her BSN?
A: an RN

What do you call an RN who passed her NCLEX? The same NCLEX that both groups took?
A: an RN

BSNs may go to school longer, but ADNs have to work harder to get there in half the time. I want to get my BSN, but since I am putting myself through school, I have to go the ADN route. That doesn't make me any dumber or less qualified, just that mommy and daddy didn't foot the bill.

[SmilingBluEyes]

This thread is pretty old and this subject has been "done" many times before. For a good thread discussing the merits of the different routes to achieving an RN credential see:

http://allnurses.com/forums/f8/have-...ad-180528.html

Discussion and debate are always welcome and encouraged, as long as respect is given all "sides" of this debate. Thanks.

[suzy253]

Originally Posted by MD1211

What do you call an RN with her ADN?
A: an RN

What do you call an RN with her BSN?
A: an RN

What do you call an RN who passed her NCLEX? The same NCLEX that both groups took?
A: an RN

AND
what do you call a diploma grad RN?
an RN (with more clinical time/prep than BSN and ADNs)z

[ACESfan87]

Hmm I think that this is cool.

[Epona]

Everyone has made some great points on the discussion here. I do not think a diploma nurse is any better or any worse then a BSN nurse.

My belief is that BSN nurses have more opportunities and the potential to make more money. I think diploma nurses probably have more hands-on experience which is a HUGE help. But I don't think getting the BSN is a waste and it can propell you into other avenues faster.

Both are good. It's a personal and financial decision. Good luck to all of us!

E

:Santa3:

[sunnyjohn]

"Lazarus, COME FORTH!"

[emmycRN]

Originally Posted by jakethai

This is very concerning. We nurses NEED TO stick together. BSN, ADN, Diploma, LVN. Nurses are nurses period. And to the original post.....shame on you.
Jake Sareerak IP

A nurse is a nurse period? Don't think so. I agree we should stick together but come on, education does count for something. The difference between an LVN and a BSN prepared nuse is like night and day. I don't intend to step on anyones toes around here but if we want to raise the professional level of nursing we have to also raise the educational expectations of our members. To say someone with 1-2 years of education is on the same level as someone with 4-6 undermines the complexity of the knowledge base inherent to nursing.

[kaliaj05]

I am a nursing student and I really don't care what I make as long as I can pay off my student loans and support my kids before school I was a cashier at a gas station making $8.00 an hour. I am new here and think that everyone who wants to become a nurse and devote their lives to helping people deserves an equal amount of credit regardless of education. (By the way I am working on my BSN and by the time I am done will have amounted about $30,000 in student loans) I think that pay should come with experience, as well as things like evaluations (meaning what do patients think of your bedside manner, etc. because I have known some not so nice nurses in my time who seem like they are only in it for the paycheck, not that all of them are by any means) regardless of the letters behind your name. Being a nurse is not about status how many nurses do you know that have a household name? Not many. I can name more celebrities than I can nurses...haha. Maybe for nurses that want more advanced degrees though and more recognition, the upper level positions should be judged on experience as well as education. That's just my opinion.