[unknown99]

Just finished with Mitch Albom's The Five People You Meet in Heaven
Excellent reading.

[Roy Fokker]

When I get my next paycheck, I want to pick up this book:



(Click the picture for link)

I think this book and Eugene Sledge's "With the Old Breed"



are some of the most definitive accounts of the brutal, harrowing combat that was the Pacific War of 1941-1945.

[Roy Fokker]

Originally Posted by mgallant

My philosophy texts and Plato. Can't wait till the semester is over so i can enjoy some "fluff" reading.... I love Patricia Cornwell; as well as the Sue Grafton series (M is for Murder, etc.. my respite family has the latest one waiting for me as i am working for them this weekend!)

Oh? What philosophy texts would they be? I love reading philosophy - I just got done with a batch from Kant and nibbled a bit from Nietzsche ("Thus spoke Zarathustra - probably one of his most misunderstood works).

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by Roy Fokker

Oh? What philosophy texts would they be? I love reading philosophy - I just got done with a batch from Kant and nibbled a bit from Nietzsche ("Thus spoke Zarathustra - probably one of his most misunderstood works).

Nietzsche was a vain idiot. Very little of his pessimistic mantra has any connection with the real world. In his case, if perception is reality, HE can have his reality.

I prefer mine.

Oh wait, the little twerp is dead and for him, there was no reality after that. So, he can't have ANYTHING. Too bad, so sad.

So, his future being of amor fati can have it. But then, it would be mean to wish for 1. lack of contemporary respect, 2. mental breakdown and 3. young death on his eternal recurrence.

Whether or not God is dead is a matter of faith and debate. One thing for certain: Nietzsche is dead.

I see nothing inherently noble OR heroic about taking a stand against the morals of society for the sheer measure of it. And a philosophical argument that only those whose values are at odds w/ society can truly be free is quite elitist: if widely embraced, it would lead to chaos and disorder. Either that, or the remaking of society in the übermenschliche's (overman/superman/hero/rebel w/out a cause) new value system - thereby turning hero into slave master.

I happen to think there are benefits to being civilized. Turning my values over to someone who's very value system is the repudiation of values would be like electing a Democrat to the White House. (That was a joke.)

(I fully admit to not reading much nietzsche. I couldn't stand his tripe. But I did read enough. As someone once said, you don't have to eat all the poop to figure out what it is.)

~faith,
Timothy.

[palesarah]

I just re-read Harry Potter #6 (for the 3rd time) and have been reading "Cracked" by Dr Drew, the host of the radio show Loveline (there was a TV version on MTV a few years back that he also hosted, and I think he has a show on Discovery health channel now but I haven't seen it). I love listening to Loveline on my way home from work, and a caller mentioned how much she liked the book so I picked it up on sale... pretty good, so far. It's about his experiences working with addicts on the chemical dependancy unit of a California pysch hospital. But he also talks alot in his book about why some people become addicts and others don't- I never realized how differently "wired" the brain of a subtance abuser is. He also talks a lot about the impact of trauma and chaos in our formative years, leading to relationship problems, it's all very interesting and makes a lot of sense.

But I put the book down about a week ago to work on some projects around the house and I haven't picked it back up because the momentum is gone. Oh well.

[Roy Fokker]

Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA

Nietzsche was a vain idiot. Very little of his pessimistic mantra has any connection with the real world. In his case, if perception is reality, HE can have his reality.

I prefer mine.

Oh wait, the little twerp is dead and for him, there was no reality after that. So, he can't have ANYTHING. Too bad, so sad.

So, his future being of amor fati can have it. But then, it would be mean to wish for 1. lack of contemporary respect, 2. mental breakdown and 3. young death on his eternal recurrence.

Whether or not God is dead is a matter of faith and debate. One thing for certain: Nietzsche is dead.

I see nothing inherently noble OR heroic about taking a stand against the morals of society for the sheer measure of it. And a philosophical argument that only those whose values are at odds w/ society can truly be free is quite elitist: if widely embraced, it would lead to chaos and disorder. Either that, or the remaking of society in the übermenschliche's new value system - thereby turning hero into slave master.

I happen to think there are benefits to being civilized. Turning my values over to someone who's very value system is the repudiation of values would be like electing a Democrat to the White House. (That was a joke.)

(I fully admit to not reading much nietzsche. I couldn't stand his tripe. But I did read enough. As someone once said, you don't have to eat all the poop to figure out what it is.)

~faith,
Timothy.

That's a pretty fair ctitique Timothy - but I find that most people who disagree with Nietzsche have really not grasped what he's trying to say.

To be honest, I don't agree entierly with him either. I've just barely started reading his works and I'd rather know what he's really talking about before passing comment/critique

Lets not turn this into a "Debate Nietzsche" thread now

I think I need to get some more Dostoyevskij as part of my next "philosophers" reading list

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by Roy Fokker

Lets not turn this into a "Debate Nietzsche" thread now

Of course not, I was just tweaking you a bit.

Back to your regularly scheduled thread. . .

~faith,
Timothy.

[Roy Fokker]

Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA

Of course not, I was just tweaking you a bit.

Back to your regularly scheduled thread. . .

~faith,
Timothy.

Takes more than that to tweak me, Sir

In other news - I surrendered to temptation and placed my order for "Goodbye Darkness".

By the by: Anyone know where I can get my hands on a used copy of "To Sir, With Love.." by E R Braithwaite?

[suebird3]

Originally Posted by JBudd

Anything by Mercedes Lackey. There are about 30 or so books in the Valdemar series, the first triology is Arrows of the Queen. She writes with very strong female leads. She has also started writing "fairy tales", set in England of the 1800s, one is a Cinderella, another Sleeping Beauty, Wild Swan, etc. for adults. Really good fiction.

In this thread, I like the "ElvenBane" series. I was told that book # 5 is already out of print, and it was just published......

Any help?

SueB

[JBudd]

Suebird and Roy,

I have found some rare titles on both ebay and Amazon.com, in the used book listings. You might try there.

Good luck!