[aimeee]

I searched the CMS website for links to Palmetto's LCD's but I couldn't find one for debility there.

[CANRN]

Originally Posted by aimeee

I searched the CMS website for links to Palmetto's LCD's but I couldn't find one for debility there.

Thank you Aimee. I also searched and did not find one specific for debility. I am thinking that it would fall under a "general" diagnosis criteria but not sure.
I appreciate your help though! Thank you!

[Suesquatch]

You know what I don't understand? Why can't we just use "dying"? Seriously.

[doodlemom]

Originally Posted by CANRN

Thank you Aimee. I also searched and did not find one specific for debility. I am thinking that it would fall under a "general" diagnosis criteria but not sure.
I appreciate your help though! Thank you!

We use debility unspecified interchangeably with general decline

[CANRN]

Originally Posted by Suesquatch

You know what I don't understand? Why can't we just use "dying"? Seriously.

We can't even use "dying" as a reason to put a patient on continuous care or inpatient! There has to be a symptom out of control that needs managed!

Dying? Wouldnt that make us all terminal? hmmm......

[aimeee]

Originally Posted by Suesquatch

You know what I don't understand? Why can't we just use "dying"? Seriously.

You know, when I am admitting someone who is already in the active stage, I've wondered the same thing!

[redding-er-rn]

Sure looks liek COPD to me and ES heart

[grdmdb]

i recently switched from emergency on call to case manager for approx 16 pts - most in assited living- lots of dementia and some cardiac- the problem is- many of them don't technically qualify!
has anyone had this experience?
txs g in jersey

[caringhospiceheart]

medicare provides criteria guidelines it sounds like he could be end-stage Alz. did he aspirate?

[CANRN]

Originally Posted by caringhospiceheart

medicare provides criteria guidelines it sounds like he could be end-stage Alz. did he aspirate?

No he did not aspirate, he did not qualify for Alz. He had "upper respiratory obstruction". The patient died last week. He had the worse Kennedy ulcers I have ever seen! They came out of no where!