[CharlieNylund]

Hello everyone!

I am interested in homeopathy, and think I would like to practice it. However, it seems you can't do that without a legal license. I can easily (well, perhaps not easily, but cheaply) become a CNA through my local community college. Would that give me the ability in North Carolina to distribute homeopathical substances? I know laws vary from state to state, I have no idea how to find out about North Carolina. I dont' expect you to know that part. But generally, do I have to get any sort of license to operate a homeopathy business? RN, MD.... does anyone know? I will contact AHNA (got that from a previous post) as well. I'd appreciate any info on that. I certainly don't want to waste any money I don't have on an unnecessary education, or one I can't put to use the way I'd like to.

Oh, and if someone does reply, I'd appreciate it sent in an email too, in case I lose the link to this post. ^__^

Thanks!!

Joseph

[ann4m]

Originally Posted by CharlieNylund

Hello everyone!

I am interested in homeopathy, and think I would like to practice it. However, it seems you can't do that without a legal license. I can easily (well, perhaps not easily, but cheaply) become a CNA through my local community college. Would that give me the ability in North Carolina to distribute homeopathical substances? I know laws vary from state to state, I have no idea how to find out about North Carolina. I dont' expect you to know that part. But generally, do I have to get any sort of license to operate a homeopathy business? RN, MD.... does anyone know? I will contact AHNA (got that from a previous post) as well. I'd appreciate any info on that. I certainly don't want to waste any money I don't have on an unnecessary education, or one I can't put to use the way I'd like to.

Oh, and if someone does reply, I'd appreciate it sent in an email too, in case I lose the link to this post. ^__^

Thanks!!

Joseph

I was browsing the web today and just want to let you know there is a homeopathic nurses association website--www.nursehomeopaths.org.

Ann

[CharlieRN]

I can well understand a desire to practice Homeopathy. It is a business in which you get to sell water and charge for it as medicine. Sweet deal. In most places it can still legally be practiced, even though it is based on a outdated and unproved medical theory. Homeopathy has repeatedly failed to show any but placebo effects. This is not surprising given that, frequently, at the dilutions indicated for treatment, there is not even one molecule of the "active ingredient" in a dose of mediction. This is probably the only reason homeopathy has not been banned. Its "medications" are so dilute that they cause no harm.

[KatieB]

Originally Posted by CharlieRN

I can well understand a desire to practice Homeopathy. It is a business in which you get to sell water and charge for it as medicine. Sweet deal. In most places it can still legally be practiced, even though it is based on a outdated and unproved medical theory. Homeopathy has repeatedly failed to show any but placebo effects. This is not surprising given that, frequently, at the dilutions indicated for treatment, there is not even one molecule of the "active ingredient" in a dose of mediction. This is probably the only reason homeopathy has not been banned. Its "medications" are so dilute that they cause no harm.

I also was highly sceptical of homeopathy, and couldn't see any reason why it should work, but I came across some info on the web about the work of Jaque Benveniste, who apparently got WBCs to exhibit a reaction to a homeopathically diluted solution of of an antibody (i.e. no antibody was present). In other words, the water molecules had some "memory" of the antibodies that had originally been present. He believed that such memory could be accounted for by the electromagnetic properties of water (that's as clearly as I can put it). (His results were indepentdently confirmed by other researchers.)

If you do a web search of Benveniste you will come across plenty of material calling him a fraud, and declaring that his work has been "debunked", but I read enough about the issue come away with the impression that the debunkers were the ones who were being irrational and pillorying him because his work goes against medical dogma, and against the interests of the pharmaceutical industry.

[CharlieRN]

Katie,

The trick with science is not the original work but the consistent replication of that work. Can anybody else duplicate this result? What are the range of substances that have effects when they are diluted to this level?

Remember "Cold Fusion"? One groug of researchers claimed to have gotten hydrogen to change into helium and release energy at room temperature. The age of cheap energy was upon us. Except nobody else could make it work.

[KatieB]

Originally Posted by CharlieRN

Katie,

The trick with science is not the original work but the consistent replication of that work. Can anybody else duplicate this result? What are the range of substances that have effects when they are diluted to this level?

Remember "Cold Fusion"? One groug of researchers claimed to have gotten hydrogen to change into helium and release energy at room temperature. The age of cheap energy was upon us. Except nobody else could make it work.

I can't find a lot now, and don't feel like spending all day looking. I did come up with a couple of web pages:
http://www.normanallan.com/Sci/bs.html
http://jacques.benveniste.org/pr-death_en.html

[healinghand]

Originally Posted by CharlieNylund

Hello everyone!

I am interested in homeopathy, and think I would like to practice it. However, it seems you can't do that without a legal license. I can easily (well, perhaps not easily, but cheaply) become a CNA through my local community college. Would that give me the ability in North Carolina to distribute homeopathical substances? I know laws vary from state to state, I have no idea how to find out about North Carolina. I dont' expect you to know that part. But generally, do I have to get any sort of license to operate a homeopathy business? RN, MD.... does anyone know? I will contact AHNA (got that from a previous post) as well. I'd appreciate any info on that. I certainly don't want to waste any money I don't have on an unnecessary education, or one I can't put to use the way I'd like to.

Oh, and if someone does reply, I'd appreciate it sent in an email too, in case I lose the link to this post. ^__^

Thanks!!

Joseph

The best thing for you to do is get certified by AHNA as a holistic nurse practioner.www.AHNA.org

I am a Homeopath from India.Practiced for 10 years in India and even taught as a lecturer for 2 years there.When I came to this country I practiced with an MD but soon realized that it is illegal to even prescribe without appropriate licence.Here many RN were practicing and prescribing Homeopathy ,hence I thought of pursuing RN.I have recently passed NCLEX after completing the state approved nursing course.
I am looking forward to establish my practice as an independent holistic practioner.I also have plans in future to set up training for those who are interested in Homeopathy.
I wish you good luck

[CharlieRN]

In Prof. AbouHaidar's viral assay a solution of DNA, the genetic ribbon - even after it has been serially diluted until there was no substance left - binds its labeled complementary strand. In Prof. AbouHaidar's viral assay a solution of DNA, the genetic ribbon - even after it has been serially diluted until there was no substance left - binds its labeled complementary strand. This means water can be patterned; can carry a signal, and in this sense "remembers". Water prefers to be ordered, to be patterned, prefers this to our usual conception of liquid as random. Water is stressed by, rather than enjoying amorphous chaos. It prefers to be organized, to behave like a crystal. So water takes whatever substance we put in it, be that salt, or sulphur, or viral DNA, as a seed from which to organize a pattern.

In the quote above, from the frist of the sites you indicated, there is a spectacular example of bad logic. I think it is actually called leaping to a conclusion, but if that is not the formal name, it none the less is an good description.

This means water can be patterned; can carry a signal, and in this sense "remembers". Water prefers to be ordered, to be patterned, prefers this to our usual conception of liquid as random. Water is stressed by, rather than enjoying amorphous chaos. It prefers to be organized, to behave like a crystal. So water takes whatever substance we put in it, be that salt, or sulphur, or viral DNA, as a seed from which to organize a pattern.

Is a wild leap from the thing which may possibly have been demonstrated:

a solution of DNA, the genetic ribbon - even after it has been serially diluted until there was no substance left - binds its labeled complementary strand.

If super diluted DNA remains active and can be shown to do so by multiple independent researchers, which so far has not happened, it means only that. DNA remains active in a super dilute solution. Period. It does not mean that "water can be patterned". It absolutely does not mean, "So water takes whatever substance we put in it, be that salt, or sulphur, or viral DNA, as a seed from which to organize a pattern." This is indeed exactly what has not been shown. If the intent is to prove the physiologic effectiveness of salt or sulphur in super dilute solutions, then those are what needs to be tested. DNA is a massively heavy, molecular weight in the thousands, complex, organic, molecule. It is vastly dissimilar to simple 2 element molecules like salt or molecules of single elements like sulphur.
This "logic" is on a par with saying "There is a four wheeled, man made, machine on Mars, therefore all, four wheeled, man made, machines are capable of interplanetary travel", with the intent of justifying selling a Ford as a space craft.