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Old Feb 28, 2008, 12:16 PM
CANurse2B (Male)
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

I want to ditto what RNDave said, I am also a Chiroractor and am currently hoping for acceptance in RN program in August 2008. His decription of Chiropractic is valid. In my case, I was never happy with the business aspect of running a practice. Being a businessman is unfortunately a large part of continued success. Much of your time is spent marketing and trying to reach out to those that need your services. There is not a great referral system with most Medical practicioners and working with insurance companies and managed care can complicate the issues further. Check into the options before you commit to the financial burdens associated with the training and starting and maintaining a practice.

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Old Mar 19, 2008, 10:45 AM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?



I know this is an old post but I'm adding my .02 worth in case any well meaning RN's are thinking the grass is greener (money green) on the other side.

First, your nursing education will help you ZERO as a D.C. You are MUCH, MUCH better off advancing in your current field. As a D.C. you can make a larger income as a business owner, however, think about what I just said...a business owner....you can make money as a business owner selling candles; no malpractice, no headaches, no MD/DC controversy, no regrets (not big ones anyway). Making good income as a D.C. is the EXCEPTION, not the norm. Good money is $85-95K gross off of a clinic that's making $250K or so.

Chiro school will run you about $100K - $140K depending on your needs. That is not fiscally sound: getting in debt $100+K to make $85K gross. It's stupid.

On a personal note many, many, many D.C.'s are quietly leaving the field to pursue other careers such as (you guessed it) NURSING. Me included. Why? Many reasons but the average D.C. associate makes about $42K a year w/o ANY benefits. The profession (basically the schools) sells itself as complimentary medicine...nothing is further from the truth. It is alternative medicine along with naturopathy, acupuncture, etc. Except the medical profession tolerates the latter two more than chiropractic. Don't believe me? Read the net sources...you'll see.

Bottom line is you can be an RN in two years minimum and make $70K+ in many areas. With a little work you can make over $100K with advanced practice and have a career that people will pay to keep you. In chiro...none of this is true. The worst feeling is knowing in an emergency as a D.C. you are utterly useless. True, you may know enough anatomy, biology, physics, etc. to UNDERSTAND what's going on but your training, scope of practice and practical knowledge will not allow you to do very much, in fact, precious little. Think about it and you will see for yourself.

THINK...THINK...THINK...DON'T PIPE 'DREAM'.

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Old Jul 02, 2008, 12:11 AM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

It sounds like you want to be a licensed naturopathic physician. In many states it is illegal to practice"holistic medicine", natural medicine or anything remotely sounding like naturopathic medicine without a license to practice it. which is an ND (or NMD in Arizona). It is practicing medicine without a license. See the wbsite for the American Association of Naturopathic doctors for accredited colleges and universities. They are 4 year programs with internship and you don't work under anyone. You are considered a primary care physician.

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Old Aug 02, 2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

The term holistic practitioner really describes a way of being and viewing others: body, mind and spirit. A holistic nurse or chiropractor (and others) can have a holistic practice if they care for their 'patients' as whole beings. You can also learn other modalities and incorporate those into your practice. I know of chiropractors who are very holistic just by their way of being while others also practice Reiki, imagery, breathing, nutritional counseling, or have massage therapists in their office...
Should you be a nurse or chiropractor? Nursing offers many paths and specialties. You can be an employee or be self employed. You can continue for advanced degrees such as nurse practitioner. If you have a family, you'll want to see what working hours work best for you. Nurses sometime are expected to work week-ends and holidays.
Most of all, though, you've got to consider the basic philosophy of health. Chiropractors have certain beliefs about health (the power is in the proper alignment of the spine) that may be very different than nurses. Maybe not. Where are your beliefs? If you choose a career based on your own beliefs, you'll find your way. I've found that if I follow my heart, wonderful opportunities land in my lap.
Best wishes!

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Old Aug 03, 2008, 07:39 PM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

Originally Posted by mrso16 View Post
It sounds like you want to be a licensed naturopathic physician. In many states it is illegal to practice"holistic medicine", natural medicine or anything remotely sounding like naturopathic medicine without a license to practice it. which is an ND (or NMD in Arizona). It is practicing medicine without a license. See the wbsite for the American Association of Naturopathic doctors for accredited colleges and universities. They are 4 year programs with internship and you don't work under anyone. You are considered a primary care physician.
You might be able to legally practice as a PCP in several states, but ND schools lack the training necessary to ethically practice as one. Four to six hundred patient contacts in school combined with the fact that the vast majority of naturopaths do not perform a residency results in a practitioner that lacks the clinical training to operate safely and effectively as a PCP.

Now some FNP programs give advanced standing to naturopaths, which would correct some of the clinical deficiencies.

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Old Aug 05, 2008, 01:31 PM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

Originally Posted by Josh L.Ac. View Post
You might be able to legally practice as a PCP in several states, but ND schools lack the training necessary to ethically practice as one. Four to six hundred patient contacts in school combined with the fact that the vast majority of naturopaths do not perform a residency results in a practitioner that lacks the clinical training to operate safely and effectively as a PCP.
Similar to chiropractic school except that even less patient contacts are required. No residency is required in chiropractic. You graduate and are able to call yourself 'Dr.' seeing patients without needing a referral. But where would a DC or ND serve a residency? There is no resident system, as there is at teaching hospitals, for an alternative/holistic doctor.

Cheers,
Dave

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Old Sep 03, 2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

i was reading this posting....just curious...what did you decide to do?

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Old Sep 29, 2008, 06:34 PM
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Re: Holistic RN or chiropractic?

I'm kind of curious to know, too! What did you decide, if you're still out there? I've struggled with the same decision, but ultimately keep coming back to nursing.

Also, HolisticNP, thanks for your post. "If you choose a career based on your own beliefs, you'll find your way." I need to remember that anytime I start thinking about doing something in healthcare other than nursing.

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