[asianrn]

what is this IV certification? is this your IV insertion? Do nurses insert PICC lines? What's in it to be certified for? or are they teaching different IV bags from .9 to D5.45 or D10, TPN possibly? Isn't these were all taught in nursing school? Really, it's no brainer to learn IV bags..nobody should be teaching us these at all, it's kinda an insult. If this is one of the requirement to get a job in Manila, do you actually use it? I thought nurses in the Philippines are not allowed to start an IV except in ER? and rarely in ICU? ..I still think that we as nurses should focus on continuing education e.g prevention and treatment for CVA, MI's, DM etc.., know it's pathophysiologies and even evidence based practices..does anybody offer these kind of classes?

[dizzydean]

Originally Posted by asianrn

what is this IV certification? is this your IV insertion? Do nurses insert PICC lines? What's in it to be certified for? or are they teaching different IV bags from .9 to D5.45 or D10, TPN possibly? Isn't these were all taught in nursing school? Really, it's no brainer to learn IV bags..nobody should be teaching us these at all, it's kinda an insult. If this is one of the requirement to get a job in Manila, do you actually use it? I thought nurses in the Philippines are not allowed to start an IV except in ER? and rarely in ICU? ..I still think that we as nurses should focus on continuing education e.g prevention and treatment for CVA, MI's, DM etc.., know it's pathophysiologies and even evidence based practices..does anybody offer these kind of classes?

They call it an IV therapy license which is given by ANSAP. I think it was adapted just a few years ago. I'm really not quite sure how to go about it that's why I'm asking questions about it on my previous post. Yes I have the same sentiment, I don't know why we need to have this when it should be understood that we already took this up in nursing school. If anyone can further enlighten us about this please do. Thanks.

[cher383]

hi guys, i also dont know their reasons for the IV therapy license.. i juz know that some hospitals esp. gov't hosp are requiring an IVT license for you to be hired.

FYI.. IV therapy license are given by ANSAP. there are certain requirements like:
1. PRC license no.
2. IV therapy training
3. u must have completed 6 iv insertion, 6 IV push, and 2 Blood Transfusion.. there's a form given by the institution that administered the training. u must accomplish this within 6 months after the date of ur training.

that's what i know.. if u have other infos about the IVT please feel free to share it..

tnx tc

[asianrn]

6 IV insertion, 6 IV push and 2 blood transfusion??? what the heck?! is this a joke?! no offense but how did they come up with these kind of number 6, 6 and 2 then you are 'certified' already?? this is an outright insult.. whose bright idea is this? PNA? come on....what is there to learn? the only thing that we should know as nurses if IV med push is ordered are two things: should it be given slow or fast..when in doubt, if the meds indication is to lower BP or lower the HR, give it slow for 2 to 5 minutes..for blood transfusion, check it with another RN, know your 5 Rs and you are all set..

[Sugar RN]

Hello! people im looking for a hospital that do seminars in iv therapy (ANSAP). Pls. help. pls. post the hospitals here. Is there a december schedule?

[pinoyNP]

Originally Posted by asianrn

6 IV insertion, 6 IV push and 2 blood transfusion??? what the heck?! is this a joke?! no offense but how did they come up with these kind of number 6, 6 and 2 then you are 'certified' already?? this is an outright insult.. whose bright idea is this? PNA? come on....what is there to learn? the only thing that we should know as nurses if IV med push is ordered are two things: should it be given slow or fast..when in doubt, if the meds indication is to lower BP or lower the HR, give it slow for 2 to 5 minutes..for blood transfusion, check it with another RN, know your 5 Rs and you are all set..

I hear ya! The situation over there is becoming more and more ridiculous. A lot of unscrupulous people are taking advantage of the vulnerability of our fresh graduates who fall for this kind of scam.

[suzanne4]

Sorry, but I agree with the above poster. These courses are becoming a joke, and are just ways for the schools to get money. And if you are planning to get that certification for working in the US, please save your money. None of those courses are accepted in the US, and you will have to go thru the requirements here for the facility that hires you.

[RNHawaii34]

Originally Posted by Sugar RN

Hello! people im looking for a hospital that do seminars in iv therapy (ANSAP). Pls. help. pls. post the hospitals here. Is there a december schedule?

Are you planning to be an IV therapist? because if you do want to be an IV therapist in the U.S., don't waste your time and money for IV seminars in the Philippines..since your IV certification is not valid here. If you are planning to work here, the hospital will train you to be an IV therapist, otherwise, if you are a regular staff nurse here, you don't need to insert IV's. don't even bother taking other certification classes like BLS, ACLS, etc., your employer will help you with that.:icon_razz:

[batasMTR_RN]

all IV therapy trainings are under ANSAP... may if be given by PNA or Delos Santos.... you will be given ID by the ANSAP... remember in the law RA 9173? ANSAP is the only body that handles training on IV theraphy...

hope this helps

[pinoyNP]

Originally Posted by RNHawaii34

otherwise, if you are a regular staff nurse here, you don't need to insert IV's

Hi RNHawaii! I am just wondering about your comment. I have worked in many hospitals with an IV team but for the most part, the staff RN's still insert their IV caths and start the infusion. The IV team is only called when the RN is having difficulty with the insertion or if it is a PICC line the patient needs. Is it different there in Hawaii?

I still don't advocate for nurses to go through those IV training sessions in the Philippines though. IV insertion is very simple to do and just requires practice to get better at. By the way, what does ANSAP stand for?