[Tarsier]

Sorry to give live to an old thread, however, this thread is interesting and timely for my wife (a Filipina living here in the U.S.) and I.

Though she's only been living here less than two years, she is legally permitted to work in this country (conditional permanent status). She has a BS degree, which she earned in the Philippines. However, it's not in nursing and now that she has the opportunity to make her own decisions as far as education and field of choice is concerned, she would like to become a nurse. She would like to get started working ASAP. Therefore, she's considering an LPN program hoping to catch on and then hope that the facility where she works will help her proceed to an RN or even BSN.

She's even considering a government certified LPN program in the Cebu City area as she could finish that program quicker and her mother would be available to watch our daughter. My question is, if she graduated from this certified program in the Philippines, would the program pass muster here in the States? We want to know if when one of the agencies here in America evaluates the program, will she be certified to get started as an LPN here in the States? I'm wondering if this is a common problem, since I know nurses who earn a BSN in the Phils, are often considered RNs here.

Thanks in advance for your help.


Dave & Michelle (Tarsier)

[Daly City RN]

Originally Posted by Tarsier

Sorry to give live to an old thread, however, this thread is interesting and timely for my wife (a Filipina living here in the U.S.) and I.

Though she's only been living here less than two years, she is legally permitted to work in this country (conditional permanent status). She has a BS degree, which she earned in the Philippines. However, it's not in nursing and now that she has the opportunity to make her own decisions as far as education and field of choice is concerned, she would like to become a nurse. She would like to get started working ASAP. Therefore, she's considering an LPN program hoping to catch on and then hope that the facility where she works will help her proceed to an RN or even BSN.

She's even considering a government certified LPN program in the Cebu City area as she could finish that program quicker and her mother would be available to watch our daughter. My question is, if she graduated from this certified program in the Philippines, would the program pass muster here in the States? We want to know if when one of the agencies here in America evaluates the program, will she be certified to get started as an LPN here in the States? I'm wondering if this is a common problem, since I know nurses who earn a BSN in the Phils, are often considered RNs here.

Thanks in advance for your help.


Dave & Michelle (Tarsier)

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To Dave and Michelle,

Read the comments in this forum and read them carefully. I may be biased, but I suggest read my own previous comments in particular. Good luck.

Daly City RN

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[suzanne4]

Sorry, but the programs for the LPN in the Philippines are a bunch of garbage and should be considered as such. The government there does not even recognize the training to be able to work in that country. And since they do not have the degree there for licensure, how in the world are they going to get the proper training when most do not even know the job, of what they can do and cannot do.

The only one that comes out ahead is the owner of the school.
And the other major fact to consider is that your wife has a conditional green card, leaving the US for this length of time is going to make it hard for her to keep her status.

Very bad idea, really take the time to do some research on this before giving a penny to any of these so called programs.

[Daly City RN]

Originally Posted by suzanne4

Sorry, but the programs for the LPN in the Philippines are a bunch of garbage and should be considered as such. The government there does not even recognize the training to be able to work in that country. And since they do not have the degree there for licensure, how in the world are they going to get the proper training when most do not even know the job, of what they can do and cannot do.

The only one that comes out ahead is the owner of the school.
And the other major fact to consider is that your wife has a conditional green card, leaving the US for this length of time is going to make it hard for her to keep her status.

Very bad idea, really take the time to do some research on this before giving a penny to any of these so called programs.

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Yes, you are absolutely right Suzanne. As I have suggested before, if anyone is going to invest time and money to go back to the Philippines to study nursing then why not enroll in the BSN program? Also, don't forget about the retrogression imposed by the U.S. on foreign grad nurses that's currently in effect.

The diploma anyone will get in the LPN program in the Philippines is not even worth a cent here in the U.S. Enough said.

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[suzanne4]

Thank you, thank you, thank you is all that I can add to what you have posted.

I do hope that people will listen to what we are telling them. If it is not a BSN program, then there is no way to get a visa for it, and the training is not worth anything over here, since they do not recognize the training there, then the instructors do not have the skills in working with LPNs in the first place.

Bad news all around and the only ones that win are the owners of these shoddy programs that get money, no one else. But as long as there are people that are gullible and believe what these crooks are telling them, they will continue to sell their product that is truly useless.

[jore from RP]

Hi Suzanne!

Thank you so much for all the information you have shared to all of us here. It has been truly appreciated.

I just hope that the Philippine government will do something about this. More and more Filipinos are getting into these programs (whether LPN or ASN). What a waste of money, time and effort to all of these students.

I'm just wondering if we could put this issue into the bigger picture so that everybody can be aware of this. I just want this to go mainstream like on television probably into the news. I just can't stand seeing more and more Filipinos getting themselves into this big mess. These schools are making these innocent individuals' dream very impossible to happen. Let's help put a stop to this "scam".

More power to allnurses.com and God bless you Suzanne.

[suzanne4]

If enough of you would protest, then perhaps your government would do something. But then again, since many of the politicians get kickbacks or whatever else one does there to grease a hand, then do not expect anything.

Just word needs to get out to these unsuspecting students not to go to school there, as well as the ones that do not have any that have passed the NLE; the owners should be forced to have their students take care of them, but then that would be impossible since they have never passes the licensing exam in your country.

They need to be in a Hall of Shame.

And then there have been a few that think that the US as well as other countries should just accept anyone that comes out the LPN program there and guess what, none of them do accept it for legal visas. No country does, but then again what do you expect from a politician there that knows nothing about healthcare.

Shame on that person as well, and I am sure that most of you know the name and it begins with a B.

[jore from RP]

Hi Suzanne,

I think I know who you're talking about since his name has already been mentioned somewhere in one of the threads I have read.

It's really sad that this is happening. I know that the government is at fault for this. Of course these schools could not operate had it not been for the permits they issued. I mean they gave out permits through TESDA (Technical Education and Skills Development Authority) and not through CHED(Commission on Higher Education).

I just hope that more people would be aware of this since some just don't know how to get around of getting a nursing education and how licensure and immigration works. For innocent students out there they don't think about these things when getting into their studies because all they are concerned at the time of enrollment was to pass the course. Later they realize after studying that they got themselves into a mess.

This is really, really sad.

[lawrence01]

There is a article today in the Philippine Star about LPNs, oversupply of nurses, no availability of work visas, CHED's inability to close down schools even if it's on their mandate. Will be doing a separate thread for it as well so that many will be able to read it.

*This is the link to the article: http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Bu...aid=2008040617

[shinobuchan]

to all who are planning on taking Practical Nursing here, you better think twice ok?