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Jul 08, 2008, 10:59 AM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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i was just trying AT LEAST theres a work. at ths time that economy is low,wether your a caregiver at least you hve something that can feed the family.
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Jul 08, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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But it is still not as an RN and it is very cold there and that salary is not going to cover living expenses, that is for sure. Taxes are still taken out of that pay, and a large percentage of it. So with paying rent and for warm clothes, as well as heat, there is not going to be anything left over and not enough to support a family on.
We keep seeing things like this get posted, but it is still not as an RN, and does not count as working as an RN; so is not really beneficial to anyone in the scheme of things.
And if one is wishing to work as a care-giver, there are countries where the weather is more similar to yours and not as cold either.
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Jul 08, 2008, 10:06 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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What struck me was the $6,000 fee to be paid by the candidates to the 'school'. That and the thought of trying to live in the world's most expensive city on $3,000 per month. I live near San Francisco which is pretty pricey and $3,000 will barely cover your rent in a lot of buildings.
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Jul 08, 2008, 10:19 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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Danger signs in this article:
Norway needs more nurses and other skilled workers from the Philippines
There's nothing special about the Philippines. If they need the workers then so be it. This sentence sounds like a recruiting flier.
Employers said they prefer workers who can speak and write Norwegian...
required to undergo a six-month course on Norwegian language.. She had to put up a small school building in her native province of Ilocos Norte, which conducts a Norwegian language course....a total of US$6,000 will be paid out by each recruit
This sounds mighty suspicious to me.
next week in various nursing homes with an initial salary of almost US$3,000 each month...Oslo is considered as the most expensive city in the world.
As Suzanne has been saying, these folks aren't working as nurses. And less than $3,000 per month to live in the most expensive city in the world? I live near San Francisco which is very pricey and $3,000 per month will barely cover rent in a lot of buildings.
This whole thing sounds fishy. This Jenssen lady sounds like she's taking advantage of some very desperate people in the PI.
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Jul 08, 2008, 10:21 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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Norwegians have a fairly good grasp of the English language, just like the Swedes, because it is part of their school curriculum. I've been told this by a Norwegian friend. However, if they use pure Norwegian in the hospital for charting and everything, then I don't know how that's going to be for foreign nurses. I'm not in the position to judge if it's hard or what because I've never been in that position. Only, I know a lot of Norwegians speak and understand English.
Aaaand offtopic but as for them being stereotyped as all blondes, it isn't true. My friend would always emphasize that.
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Jul 09, 2008, 02:47 AM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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Aaaand offtopic but as for them being stereotyped as all blondes, it isn't true. My friend would always emphasize that.[/quote]
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to stereotype them as all blonds. I should know because in the 1980's I worked with a now-retired Norwegian-American registered nurse who has blue eyes and sandy brown hair. Also, I have been to Europe twice and I had the pleasure of meeting a few Nordic folks (Swedes, Norwegians etc.) and they speak English with thick accents and some speak English better than others. I don't think they use English as the official language in their hospitals. And why should they? They are a proud nation with their own sophisticated language.
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Jul 10, 2008, 09:23 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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The only point that we are making is that six months of training is not going to put someone at the college level in the language and that is what is needed to be able to even be considered for an actual RN position there.
And these workers are going to be placed in nursing homes doing direct patient care, not in hospitals either. And not as nurses.
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Oct 15, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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 hi.. i just read this a few minutes ago.. norway does NOT hire people outside EU as RN!! even people within EU HAVE TO KNOW the language..
RN's outside scandinacia NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE OR THE BEST YOU ARE YOU WILL NOT BE HIRED AS RN!! NOT EVEN RN IN THE HOME FOR THE AGED..
i know this for a fact because i am RN from the Philippines BUT norwegian citizen since i was born here.. i am fluent in the language but i can't become RN here still... i can become a hjelpepleier or a special nurse like in the us which can give oral meds but not special meds.. BUT in order for me to give that i have to take medicine course...
i wish the old system in hiring nurses outside norway would be taken back.. because back in the 70's my mom and dad got into norway with no problem.. they got a contract... my mom got an OR nursing contract right away.. BUT THIS WAS IN THE 70's.. the norwegian gov't isn't that generous even though they NEED RN's real bad..
you guys can work here i think but as nurses assistant.. it sucks because RN's from the philippines and the US are like doctor's here... (trust me the medical care here suck and they have A LOT of failed diagnosis.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.............) anyway, that is life.. we do our best though, right?  hope this helps.. i'm not discouraging you guys or anything...
oh yeah... learning Norwegian in 6mos. is possible!!! you wont be 101% fluent but fluent enough to communicate and write.. as long as you focus... norwegian has a little of almost every language in europe and especially english.. so if i misspell it's because the spelling in norwegian of some words are similar.. bye
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Oct 15, 2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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oh yeah... learning Norwegian in 6mos. is possible!!! you wont be 101% fluent but fluent enough to communicate and write.. as long as you focus... norwegian has a little of almost every language in europe and especially english.. so if i misspell it's because the spelling in norwegian of some words are similar.. bye[/quote]
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With all due respect, it is EASY for you to say that Norwegian can learned in six months because you have lived in Norway for long time. For an adult Filipino nurse, or any Filipino for that matter, it would be a different story. And to function as a professional RN from overseas you must be close to being fluent in Norwegian as possible. Other than that you may endanger the health and life of your Norwegian patients. I don't have to repeat the scenarios that I have written about regarding this particular topic.
For us who went to college in the Philippines in the 1970's or earlier, we were required to take Spanish classes (I don't know when they stopped requiring Spanish as a required course in Philippine colleges though). In my case, I took Spanish classes in high school, and Spanish I and II in college. I am not ashamed to say that I did not become fluent in Spanish after taking these classes because most of my classmates were also roughly in my level of fluency in Spanish, or lack thereof. This has something to do with the adult brain. Of course a few select people are better than most in learning a new language.
Since Norway belongs to the European Union, and the E.U. has stopped hiring RN's from outside their borders, then one could assume that Norway is importing nursing aides with 'college degrees' from the Philippines instead of employing them as RN's.
I do hope not.
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Oct 15, 2008, 10:34 PM
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Re: Norway needs more Pinoy nurses, other skilled workers
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Thanks for your post, I think you bring up a good point, one should go to school where they want to practice. If you went to school in Norway you would be all set.
With your EU passport and Philipine degree can you work elsewhere in Europe?
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