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Jul 20, 2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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If it is not about the government who else is going to change the system? we can only suggest and provide information to the government but it will be them who make the changes so the government is really the point of the discussion.
What we can do is limited by what the government will respond to.
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Jul 22, 2008, 02:43 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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That is where you are 100% wrong. If others can set up businesses, why can't some of you set up clinics in an inderserved province to help provide care there?
We have seen it done in many other countries and it can be done in yours as well. What about training programs for the mothers so that their infants can get better care?
Use the skills that you were given and it can be made to be useful. There are a large number of you without a job, so put your training to good use and help others.
This is just a couple of suggestions, I am sure that many of you have some others and it has nothing to do with your government. You need to create your own situations, and not depend on others to do it for you.
If the government is broken, in numbers, you can fix it.
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Jul 22, 2008, 02:59 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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Government licenses are required for this and funding as well. If we had both or charitable contributions yes we can do this if the govt approves it.
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Jul 22, 2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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Those things are so easy to get. When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen.
I made some suggestions of things that will work there, it is up to you or others if you wish to do something with it.
But to say that is cannot be done is just pure hogwash.
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Jul 23, 2008, 09:06 AM
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"When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen."
I agree with you Suzanne. Although making changes will not be as easy, it should be something that the PNA (Philippine Nurses Association) should push for, I mean considering how many Nurses and Nursing students there are, that will surely get nurses to be noticed.
Just to share another story, a friend of mine who is underboard (meaning he has not passed the local licensure examination) was actually able to get in a government hospital as a volunteer. He gets an OR rotation at 6am to 2pm, a prime slot for most people. Sad part is, there is a long list of RN qualified applicants waiting for that slot and they're also willing to do it for free. When I asked him how he managed to secure a slot, he told me that he had powerful friends and the same goes for a lot more staff members... being underboard while carrying-out RN tasks that is.
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Jul 25, 2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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the government should be regulatuing nursing schools first. those with very low passing rate should be closed. plain and simple. its a money making business with most schools.
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Jul 27, 2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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Originally Posted by jmolina23
"When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen."
I agree with you Suzanne. Although making changes will not be as easy, it should be something that the PNA (Philippine Nurses Association) should push for, I mean considering how many Nurses and Nursing students there are, that will surely get nurses to be noticed.
Just to share another story, a friend of mine who is underboard (meaning he has not passed the local licensure examination) was actually able to get in a government hospital as a volunteer. He gets an OR rotation at 6am to 2pm, a prime slot for most people. Sad part is, there is a long list of RN qualified applicants waiting for that slot and they're also willing to do it for free. When I asked him how he managed to secure a slot, he told me that he had powerful friends and the same goes for a lot more staff members... being underboard while carrying-out RN tasks that is.

you mean he was able to work as an RN without having a license?... my question is did the hospital absorbed him as staff? expect the worst here in our beloved country. many are far more qualified and yet rejected just because they dont have someone to back them up!!!! 
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Aug 04, 2008, 02:55 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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" I agree with you Suzanne. Although making changes will not be as easy, it should be something that the PNA (Philippine Nurses Association) should push for, I mean considering how many Nurses and Nursing students there are, that will surely get nurses to be noticed.
Just to share another story, a friend of mine who is underboard (meaning he has not passed the local licensure examination) was actually able to get in a government hospital as a volunteer. He gets an OR rotation at 6am to 2pm, a prime slot for most people. Sad part is, there is a long list of RN qualified applicants waiting for that slot and they're also willing to do it for free. When I asked him how he managed to secure a slot, he told me that he had powerful friends and the same goes for a lot more staff members... being underboard while carrying-out RN tasks that is. "
PNA? Are they doing something? I have been a nurse since '98 and what I only heard was they ask for P300 monthly for members and never heard of doing anything for the nurses? I never even applied there. It's just a moneymaking.
Yeah, the reason why our country is not improving it's because of those people who use others power and not their capability as a person. I even heard other nurses who ask to certify from the hospital where they knew somebody there and gottcha, instant work experience! Then they send it to their employers abroad. Now, they work and don't know anything at all!! That's why I read many threads here that says Filipino nurses are not good workers anymore. Why? Because of those people who wanted easy life!! Shame on them. I really feel bad to other qualified Filipino nurses who are still in the Phil that really work hard to gain experience.But anyway, slowly but surely, I bet you, you will pave your way to success. Its just like saying "I know that, I can do that coz I've done that." CONFIDENTLY!!!
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Aug 04, 2008, 06:53 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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Originally Posted by jmolina23 "When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen."
The first step in any journey is to know where you are going.
The second step is to take action - step by step, each step will take you toward what you are asking for.
The third step is to believe you actually have it, know that it is coming to you.
Finally when the opportunity arises take it no matter where it leads you for you cannot predict how the world will work to provide you with your dream. you can only ask, believe and accept.
Remember, if we are not grateful for what we have now no one will give us anymore. Who really gives to ingrates? But everyone wants to give to those who are thankful and show gratitude no matter what they receive.
Too often we think things are bad but really they are only redirecting us to what we are really asking for.
Know your dream, believe in it, do what you have to do everyday and do it properly, be ready to receive when it comes to you and watch the magic happen.
good luck because keeping the thought of your dream in your mind and being thankful and grateful for something you do not have is hard work but it will pay off.
Try, and experience, do not believe, prove it right or wrong what have you got to lose???
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Aug 04, 2008, 09:49 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines
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This is really one of the sad stories with the nursing profession nowadays - hospitals tend to take advantage of those RN's who are willing to render services for free (volunteer). Some who are applying as a staff nurse will be left with no choice to accept it hoping that after sometime they will eventually be absorbed as an employee.  I myself would be willing to be one of them because my purpose is that before I leave the country I want to be fully equipt with knowledge and skills. Although as what my sister-in-law (USRN) told me that before one starts working as a nurse, one will still undergo a training for the specific department assigned to, (aside from orientation) But of course, I know that I will be carrying with me the Philippines as a whole when I start working there and clearly I should keep the good impression other nurses have shown over the years.
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