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Old Jun 23, 2008, 09:25 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines

One cannot expect changes to come from other countries concerning issues with your government, it needs to come directly from the people in your country.

If you do not like what a politician is doing, then they do not need to be reelected. Just like the US or anyplace else.

And if they are that corrupt, then the focus needs to be on removing them from office, and not letting them continue with what they are doing.

Who ever is corrupt needs to be removed. And is starts with very small changes to get things done. Going to meetings and standing up for what is yours is a start. Get active in organizations there as the more voices, the more that one listens.

But do not expect relief to come from other countries, that is just not going to happen at all. It is like putting a head in the sand and hoping that things will get better, you all you will find is that you will be buried alive.

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Old Jun 28, 2008, 11:31 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines

The nursing situation here in the Philippines has really became worse to worst. Yes it's true that hundreds of thousands REGISTERED nurses are either unemployed or underemployed. That the current nursing personnel in the hospitals (esp government facilities) are working on a very unsafe ratio of 1 nurse:1 ward.

Let's face it. Life is not always fair and this present situation is not making anybody happy. We may put the blame on very bad governance, lack of political will or over abundance of registered nurses.

The political agenda unfortunately doesn't include putting limits or caps to nursing enrollees because they (students) are all part of the plan to make more money for the schools generating more taxes for the government. More taxes means more social 'services' to the less fortunate. [Though, we all know that only a handful of people are able to benefit from these 'social services']

Unlike the more progressive democratic countries of the world, the Philippines cannot simply change its leaders. We tried that by marching to the streets clamoring for change of leadership only to learn that we took off on the proverbial frying pan to the fire. We tried doing it legally by voting in but even that was stripped from us through election fraud. So you see, it is no wonder why some of us are losing hope of a brighter future here.

If you see or hear a Filipino nurse wanting to go abroad, please don't think we are after the jobs of the citizens of that country. If we seem to be eager of serving other people than our own it is only because we are deprived of the honor of doing this.

Sorry for ranting here about this but I just can't help it. I felt that we are the most misunderstood nurses in the whole world. Some of our reasons for taking up nursing (esp second coursers) might be unacceptable to some, but we are all bound now by a common oath.

What we can do to make things better is to first analyze of how much are we willing to give. Let us not forget "bayanihan" (helping each other). Making things better doesn't necessarily mean pushing for something that is written in terms of laws or changing regulations in the nursing profession. Lets start small.

Let each and everyone of us be a better example to others. We may not have nursing jobs but we can still practice nursing. In our family, let us be their guardian of health. We can offer ourselves to the community in doing BP monitoring of our elderly. Sooner or later community leaders will take notice of our efforts. "Big things start from small beginnings".

IMHO, making things better starts from feeling good about oneself and one's profession. In this very trying times for nurses in the Philippines, we can make it better by being an inspiration to others, helping and supporting each other. Let us share what we have freely; the knowledge, the skills and the wisdom of being a true nurse.

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Old Jun 29, 2008, 02:53 AM
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When I was still in college, i can cannot remember a fellow student that was able to pass Qualifying Exams for College of nursing with an average grade below 85 or whatever is its equivalent to other schools. Second coursers even got hard times before they were allowed to join us and they all came from medical courses and no other jdepartment can join our team unless you got the connections of course. In the 90's, the University where i study nursing, has a certain qouta that in excess of that number, the CHED is going to call their attention, i heard that from one of our mentors who shove those parents away when the qouta was reached. And it was during those times that survival matters before marching that stage for your diploma. just imagine this, a university of 15,000 students with only 250 nursing studes during our first year and end up to be 165 by the time we graduated from our respective college. During those times, as i can remember it, our passing score for every exams that we took, was 80% for quizzes and 75% during major exams. Divide it into four to get 80%. you will put your future in the thin line when you fall below 80 but not lower than 75 by taking the removal exam.. below 75? pack your things and leave the college.

BUt the trend has change a lot, by 1995, a year after i finished nursing, i paid my alma mater a visit and the numbers surprised me. Why? because the system had changed. they comercialized education like any common commodities you can find in the market. the result? influx of unemployed registered nurses numbering to thousands. on top of that, employers took advantage of the situation and let volunteer RN work in their facility with the unexperienced RN pay every hour he/she spend on it.

What happens to the nursing community in the PI boils down to politics and corrupt governance.there's a lot of government run healt facilities out there that is under staff but the management freeze the hiring due to lack of funds but yet Ghost employees remain an unsolved problem. One Nurse on a shift for minimum of 60 patients with one aide, whew! But that what makes me a good nurse by the time i got myself used to it.

For me, the one thing that will make things better for PI nurses is to show force by regrouping ourselves and talk these things that concerns our profession in front PNA set of officers. We can still use the PNA to start doing its job and support the cause that the PI RN's is suffering right now. I am willing to support the move even if am abroad.

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Old Jul 06, 2008, 07:01 AM
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No doubt nurses are underpaid and so are the other professions. Our government isn't capable of providing us of what we all need. So let's start with ourselves, try to change our attitude, and vote wisely. If you're capable then provide jobs for the many, we're a capitalist country. I really can't understand some of my batch mates who are well off, they have good family business, they're riding these luxurious cars and yet they're taking up nursing to serve as an escape route from our country. Saying that the government is corrupt and the country is hopeless, why not change the attitude? Start within yourself. As a nurse, believe that you can make a change. With your simple touch and care to your client, you can make him think that there are these people who cares.

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Old Jul 15, 2008, 07:36 AM
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Suzanne4,

In the Philippines there are too many nurses. Last year alone 200,000 sat the board exam and 84,000+ passed to gain registration. There are just not enough hospitals and the government is running a third world country with little funding.
A very high percentage of us are unemployed and the opportunities are limited elsewhere in the world. We wish it would be better but when you live in a country where the polititians run the country for their own benefit what can we do.

Our country is rated as the Asian country with the highest level of corruption in government in the world. That is why we all want to live overseas.

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Old Jul 19, 2008, 11:29 AM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines

Originally Posted by sally22 View Post
Suzanne4,

In the Philippines there are too many nurses. Last year alone 200,000 sat the board exam and 84,000+ passed to gain registration. There are just not enough hospitals and the government is running a third world country with little funding.
A very high percentage of us are unemployed and the opportunities are limited elsewhere in the world. We wish it would be better but when you live in a country where the polititians run the country for their own benefit what can we do.

Our country is rated as the Asian country with the highest level of corruption in government in the world. That is why we all want to live overseas.

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I understand quite well what is going on in your country, much of what happens there is in the Filipino-American papers that are available in the US as well as what I read on-line daily as well as with the Filipino tv stations that we have here as well.

And that is why things need to change there, and this thread is about what you can do to make changes. The number of nursing students is just increasing dramatically per year over the past few years, and there are no jobs, but there are also no countries that are going to be able to offer jobs to all that want them. Requirements are going to be getting more strict, so there needs to be something that is done with what is happening in your country to begin with, it always should start at home.

Because your country is corrupt, there are many others that come quite close, but they do not produce the number of nurses that your country does. If enough of you band together, changes can be made and we are starting to see some things happen now. And this is the thread where the recommendations should be made as to what you can do. And changes do the best when they start very small, easier to get things done that way. Then nothing seems that drastic at all to anyone.

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 08:31 AM
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84,000 nurses passed the board exam last year alone. 200,000 sat the exam.

where are the hospitals and who will pay for them. The Philippine Govt? it would be nice to think they will, but for those who do not live in the Philippines it is difficult for you to see what it really is like.

Perhaps the force should come from the general population but they rarely take any action unless it is related to their income.

More hospitals and more positions. Can the people afford to pay. There is no free medical here, you pay before they treat you. Maybe this is an area that could be targeted, encourage the government to create a government funded health plan that works, The SSS is a step in the right direction and without the patients with the capacity to pay I cannot see any changes to the present situation.

What do you think

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 06:14 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines

Pleas use this thread for making suggestions as to what can be done starting with a grass-roots effort to make changes to what is going on. And the changes can be very small, these have the best chance of succeeding, and it what is normally done in health care anywhere.

Things become more acceptable to others. There are a large number of graduates without jobs in healthcare as well as a very large number that is enrolled in nursing programs now, close to a million (950,000 to be exact).

Together as a group, things can get done. But just discussing what your country is doing or not doing is not going to make any changes to anything and not why this thread was started.

Please keep to the topic as it was meant to be used for.

Thanks for your understanding on this.

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 08:27 PM
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The unfortunate problem we have in the Philippines is that Corruption is the way of life in the government. Elect another one and same thing.

Did you know the politicians spend millions of dollars USD$ on their advertising campaigns so they can become elected politicians. Then they make that and more in return.
These people make the laws that allow us to make these changes. And even the US has this problem to a degree with George Bush for example and he is still there.

A proposition to create a different Political system with two houses failed.

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 10:12 PM
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Re: Making things better for nurses in the Philippines

This thread is not about a corrupt government but what you as an nurse can do to facilitate changes, the same thing that you do when you are working with a patient. Small steps to make a change are always easier to get accomplished.

And that is what this thread is about, please stick to the topic that was being discussed. It is not about your government but how to make things better for patients in your country.

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