[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by nieruth

working as a Regisrtered Nurse Suzanne.

I understand working as an RN, but that does not change what I have been posting. You are going to be legally responsible for up to 60 patients per shift, and you cannot start to work as an RN and get paid as one until the boards are passed and you are issued a license. Does not matter what anyone promises, but this is in fact what happens.

And the time spent working not in the licensed role of the RN does not count as RN experience and the work in the LTC is also not counted as hospital experience later on.

You do not instantly become an RN in their standards as soon as you arrive there and the exam is only given three times per year.

We are seeing all types of promises being made, but none that are keeping them.

[bunnyhunter]

i graduated last March 2007, took NLE on June 2007 & passed.
i really had a hard time applying for a job as a staff nurse then so i decided to take NCLEX-RN right away. Now that i am an NCLEX passer, i am still applying for a position as a staff nurse because the agency that called me up upon passing nclex requires at least 6 months of clinical experience, trainings are even counted. however, i still haven't landed on a staff nurse job...

whew! tough one!

[Husky_Lover_RN]

Originally Posted by bunnyhunter

i graduated last March 2007, took NLE on June 2007 & passed.
i really had a hard time applying for a job as a staff nurse then so i decided to take NCLEX-RN right away. Now that i am an NCLEX passer, i am still applying for a position as a staff nurse because the agency that called me up upon passing nclex requires at least 6 months of clinical experience, trainings are even counted. however, i still haven't landed on a staff nurse job...

whew! tough one!

Not to intentionally add to your problem,besides from that even those who have 6mos or more experience are still unable to go to US due to retrogression which they say will be lifted in 5 years or so.

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by Husky_Lover_RN

Not to intentionally add to your problem,besides from that even those who have 6mos or more experience are still unable to go to US due to retrogression which they say will be lifted in 5 years or so.

No one here has ever mentioned the retrogression be lifted in five years, you are taking things out of context. The retrogression is in place because there are many more applicants than there are visas available per year. We have just come up with five years as being the earliest chance that one will have at a visa based on just a quick estimate of the numbers that are waiting that already have pending petitions. Add into it the exponential increase in the grads as well as students in the Philippines right now and that wait for a chance at a visa could easily climb to ten years.

Passing of the NCLEX exam and even finding an employer to petition a nurse definitely does not guarantee that one will actually get a visa. We are also expecting the requirements to become much tighter and the US to require two years of actual work experience as many other countries are doing now. They are going to have to use some type of weeding tool and this makes the most sense. It also requires that one take and pass the NLE exam, as was the requirement until a few years ago when the CGFNS exam was required by all.

To be going into nursing now to use as a stepping stone to get to the US is just not going to be working for many. One needs to consider going to another country to get experience as an RN if they truly want to be able to work in the US; especially if they are not already in the petitioning process now.

[Husky_Lover_RN]

yeah i'm aware that retrogression will take lot of years to be lifted..I've read repetitive times it was mentioned in forums here.

oh i said five years or so..meaning five or more years...^_^

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by Husky_Lover_RN

yeah i'm aware that retrogression will take lot of years to be lifted..I've read repetitive times it was mentioned in forums here.

oh i said five years or so..meaning five or more years...^_^

And you are missing the point, there has never been mention of the retrogression being lifted in five years. The entire reason for the retrogression is that there are many more applicants than there are visas available per year. This is why we keep saying that someone is only going to have a chance at a visa, it is no longer guaranteed by any shape or form. Add into it the drastic increase in the number of grads coming out of the Philippines, and the chances are going to get slimmer and slimmer.

We have never said that is was going to be lifted in five years, there are many more nurses waiting for visas already than the 10,000 per year for your country, and that includes children and spouses.

Getting a chance at a visa if one is not already far down the line with the petitioning process is going to be about five years minimum, but nothing about retrogression being lifted. We have never had unlimited visas in the US and never will.

Just wanted to make myself very clear on this and for others reading.

Getting a chance at a visa and lifting of the retrogression are two very distinct and different things.

[spongebob6286]

Originally Posted by suzanne4

And you are missing the point, there has never been mention of the retrogression being lifted in five years. The entire reason for the retrogression is that there are many more applicants than there are visas available per year. This is why we keep saying that someone is only going to have a chance at a visa, it is no longer guaranteed by any shape or form. Add into it the drastic increase in the number of grads coming out of the Philippines, and the chances are going to get slimmer and slimmer.

We have never said that is was going to be lifted in five years, there are many more nurses waiting for visas already than the 10,000 per year for your country, and that includes children and spouses.

Getting a chance at a visa if one is not already far down the line with the petitioning process is going to be about five years minimum, but nothing about retrogression being lifted. We have never had unlimited visas in the US and never will.

Just wanted to make myself very clear on this and for others reading.

Getting a chance at a visa and lifting of the retrogression are two very distinct and different things.

i have a friend whose been waiting for her PD to be current for almost 3 years! she's now considering to work in KSA.

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by spongebob6286

i have a friend whose been waiting for her PD to be current for almost 3 years! she's now considering to work in KSA.

Exactly. So anyone that thinks that they are going to be applying now and getting to the US soon has to take another look at things and very closely.

[gwapalicious]

My only suggestion would be for all new GRAD (RN) to apply a job here in NZ as we don't have many nurses. I know that you have to take a 3 month bridgin course (IELTS) with family you know sponsoring you, otherwise they will not let you in the country without a support. I also heard that over there in the Phils. they offer IELTS already? If they do then it is important to sit that exam first before applying to NZ.

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by gwapalicious

My only suggestion would be for all new GRAD (RN) to apply a job here in NZ as we don't have many nurses. I know that you have to take a 3 month bridgin course (IELTS) with family you know sponsoring you, otherwise they will not let you in the country without a support. I also heard that over there in the Phils. they offer IELTS already? If they do then it is important to sit that exam first before applying to NZ.

Sorry, but new grads are not going to have a chance, as experience is required as well as passing of the NLE. And the bridging course/program is normally done thru an approved program and the housing is included with it, one is not expected to stay with family either for it.

The bridging program is not for the English either as that needs to be passed before they can even get the visa to go to NZ. The bridge program is for nursing related issues and nursing skills, and that alone.

The IELTS exam has been offered in the Philippines for years, just like every other country in SE Asia.