[linejes]

My dear,

Im just trying to point out that proper attitude is essential in learning a language (whatever language it may be).

With regards to the need for remedial classes, it should be case to case basis. Since the english language is our second language (or for some they consider it just their third or fourth language. first our local dialects, second our lingua franca, third english) here in the Philippines, polishing and practice are the more appropriate words for me.

"Dont also forget to take remedial classes on communication process and therapeutic communication, because i also noticed in many forum, these skills are being forgotten".

[Daly City RN]

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My wife and I attended a wedding in San Jose, Calif. last weekend and I overheard a relative telling her grandson during the reception:

"Don't do that no more!"

Wrong grammar.

She is a former teacher from the Philippines.

Incredible.

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[linejes]

i used to work in a call center before. I worked for one of the most leading mobile companies in US. I noticed that many native speakers also commit mistakes in grammar. Well, the biggest learning here is that , we should not stereotype.

If you studied here, you know for a fact that we have almost the same number of units in filipino (language) and english, yet only few seems to speak in correct, standard filipino. But this does not mean we all have to take a remedial classes in our own language. Do you see my point?

So to answer again the question "Do Filipino Nurses Need Remedial English Classes Before Going Overseas?", again my answer is case to case basis. Because we cant generalize. If you find english language so strange to you, go ahead. learn and succeed.

NURSES ARE MORETHAN CAPABLE OF LEARNING NEW SKILL. KUDOS TO ALL OF US.

[Daly City RN]

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I'm not a native English speaker. I was born in the Philippines but at least I have been trying to improve my grammar. My accent has softened in my 30 years here in the U.S. but I don't make a conscious effort to sound like an American. My U.S. born kids say that my accent is much better than most of their uncles and aunts who were born in the Philippines. To paraphrase the famous TV chef, I can confidently say that my English grammar is several "notches" higher than many of my Philippine-born relatives living here in the U.S.

Yes, many Americans who were born in the U.S. don't speak grammatically correct English, but many Americans did not go to collage. In my encounters with the U.S.-born nurses, I would say that the majority of them posses good grammar. They are college graduates after all.

I have to emphasize that if you are a foreign-grad RN it is to your advantage to speak and write grammatically correct English. Don't think that because that there are Americans who don't speak English well then it would be alright for you to be like them. In the world of business, speaking and writing grammatically incorrect English is not good for your professional advancement.

I don't understand why some people oppose or are too lazy to learn how to speak and write English well. You've gone to college, you have studied nursing but your English is terrible. Do you want to have an advantage over the other 100,000 or so unemployed Filipino nurses? Arm yourself with better English grammar along with improving your professional skills.

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[libie]

Originally Posted by linejes

i used to work in a call center before. I worked for one of the most leading mobile companies in US. I noticed that many native speakers also commit mistakes in grammar. Well, the biggest learning here is that , we should not stereotype.

If you studied here, you know for a fact that we have almost the same number of units in filipino (language) and english, yet only few seems to speak in correct, standard filipino. But this does not mean we all have to take a remedial classes in our own language. Do you see my point?

So to answer again the question "Do Filipino Nurses Need Remedial English Classes Before Going Overseas?", again my answer is case to case basis. Because we cant generalize. If you find english language so strange to you, go ahead. learn and succeed.

NURSES ARE MORETHAN CAPABLE OF LEARNING NEW SKILL. KUDOS TO ALL OF US.

i must say you're right with what you've said! others here are just stereotyping, which we nurses should not do. nevertheless, that remedial class is, as you said, should be case to case basis.

in the philippines they use primarily Tagal0g and "occassionally" english so you have to expect that not ALL of the filipinos are that fluent in english. but most of them know hot to write and speak in english.

one more thing, i also know a lot of natives here in canada that are poor in grammar and often misspell words.

so the bottom line is, never ever generalize because you know for a fact that it is not acceptable!

by the way, i am just happy because here in Ontario, all cultures are accepted and the natives here are very RESPECTFUL and HELPFUL to the immigrants.

God bless!