[nurseulove]

i am in california.. i am thinking of the 30 unit option to become a rn... you think those 30 units will help me pass the nclex? i want to be a crna? will it reflect just incase i fail my nclex and took it multiple times? i can take nclex rn multiple time right? is there an experience requirement? can someone help me?

[vashtee]

All I can tell you is that in my RN program, many LVNs bridge in after the first year, and the ones I have spoken to about this say they had no idea how hard the program would be, and how it is so much different than the LVN program.

[BBFRN]

Thread moved to LPN-RN Student Nursing forum to encourage more responses.

[tothepointe]

I think if you do the 30 unit credit versus bridging into the second year of the regular RN that you will limit yourself as its a terminal program. Meaning you can't upgrade to a BSN later on which you'll need to get into CRNA school without doing alot of extra courses. I could be wrong but that is my understanding

[Daytonite]

All state board approved nursing programs have curriculum that is designed to cover the subjects that are tested on the NCLEX. It is up to you to learn the subjects and how to answer the NCLEX style questions. Even the NCSBN (National Council of State Boards of Nursing) that writes and administrates the NCLEX tells students to also focus on learning how to answer application style questions in order to be successful on this test. Your state board of nursing website will tell you what your state rules are with regard to how many times you can take the NCLEX and what the requirements are to qualify to take it. California has two boards: one for LVNs and one for RNs. No, there is usually no experience required, but graduation from a state board approved nursing program is usually a requirement.

Don't focus on failing. Think positively.

Here are the links to the California Boards of Nursing:

• http://www.rn.ca.gov/ - California Board of RN Nursing
• http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/ - California Board of Vocational Nursing and Psychiatric Technicians

[nurseulove]

so if i let say pass and become an RN with the 30 unbit option no degree.. i cant get a bsn rn? or aa? after? i wanna clear this up..

[unitek1963]

Originally Posted by nurseulove

so if i let say pass and become an RN with the 30 unbit option no degree.. i cant get a bsn rn? or aa? after? i wanna clear this up..

Speak with the nursing counselor at your school about which avenue would get you to the point you wish to reach depending upon your criteria (the least amount of time, classes, etc.), and which avenue might curtail you down the road.

They have years of experience mapping these things out for you and usually know all of the regulations pertaining to what the Board of Nursing will accept (and not accept).

Make sure that whichever school(s) you attend are accredited by the Board of Nursing for your state. You can usually find a list of these on the Board's web site.

Those of us here on the AllNurses.com forum are not nursing counselors, nor do we belong to the Board(s) of Nursing. The information we can offer about a certain school would be limited (and sometimes questionable.)

I wish you well in your career.

Regards,

Michael

[Daytonite]

The term and designation "RN", Registered Nurse, is a legal title and license to practice. The process is similar to getting a driver's license. You can take Driver's Ed, but until you take and pass a driving test with the state department of DMV, you cannot legally drive. You can finish a nursing school program, but that doesn't legally make you an LVN or RN until you take and pass the NCLEX no matter how many college degrees, diplomas or certificates from nursing schools you have. An RN license can only be granted to you by the state not a school. Did you read your state board requirements to take the NCLEX? The school you are choosing to go to has met the requirements with the state board for their students to take the NCLEX. If they or the state board haven't made it clear how this is accomplished, by a degree, diploma or certificate of completion of some kind, call them up and ask them. LVN schools that are within community colleges train students for the NCLEX-PN all the time without granting an AA degree. But, they usually give the students some type of certificate for completing the course of training.

An AA (Associate of Arts) or BSN (Bachelor's in the Science of Nursing) are an honor bestowed upon students who meet the qualifications each college has specified for those levels of education completed and in those fields of study. Every college catalog describes the requirements needed to earn one of these degrees that the college offers. Many universities also have several "schools" within them, such as a school of arts, a school of science, a school of fine arts, etc. That is how they come to have BA's (Bachelor of Arts degrees), BS's (Bachelor of Science degrees), etc.

One of the things you should be doing is getting, or downloading, a copy of this college's official catalog and reading the information in it about degree and graduation requirements. There will also be a section in the catalog about the nursing program that will give specific information about it. You need to be reading it as this is considered to be the official word by the school about their program and degrees, diploma or certificates that they offer. If you still have questions, then call the nursing department of the school.

I have both an AA in nursing and a BSN from different colleges. In both cases prior to graduation, each college required that every student seeking graduation file a request for the degree with the office of the school granting the degrees. That office then pulls the student's transcripts and compares the list of all the courses the student has taken against the list of coursework that is required to obtain the degree the student is requesting. They send a letter to the student informing them if they are eligible and being placed on a list for the next scheduled graduation or they will inform them where they have deficiencies in class work required to get the degree they seek. This process is clearly spelled out in every college catalog along with degree requirements. Anyone can do this process informally by using information from the college catalog or meeting with a college counselor.

I just want to add that once you get into a college you are not just in nursing school. You are a college student and you need to be savvy about being a college student.

If you haven't read the information on how to become a nurse, you need to:

• http://www.discovernursing.com/

[txspadequeen921]

I do believe the 30 unit option limits you to remaining associate degree nurse and also remaining in California. Now this is just from reading on this board you need to contact the Board of CA

[Daytonite]

nurseulove. . .you need to contact the counselor who advises the nursing students at the school that is offering this 30-unit option in order to get your questions answered.

1. It is the counselor's job to know how this plan merges with other university programs to get your BSN
2. California community colleges and state supported universities (the California state colleges and universities) have, for some time, been working to create RN to BSN bridge programs between the community colleges and the California supported universities.

I'm not trying to be mean, but from reading your posts, I get the feeling that you do not understand the difference between the meaning of RN, the degree earned at a school and what is required to become a CRNA. I do not think that you understand what the NCLEX actually is. You have to become a knowledgeable college student to achieve the level of nursing that you are desiring. That means learning how to navigate within and deal with the red tape of the college. This is not just a matter of learning to be a nurse. You also have to learn to be a college student. No one is going to hold your hand like your mom may have done on your first day of kindergarten. The only people who might give you some help and direction are the college counselors. The rest is up to you and how motivated, adaptable and responsible you are. Once again, I will suggest that you get your hands on a copy of the college catalog and read through it.