[chordringer]

Originally Posted by joeyzstj

Im currently enrolled in the University of New England's O chem class. It is all online. Its definately a tough course.

I'm pretty confident that I am going to take this class as well. Just need to gather the funds for it (i.e scholarships, etc.) I'm planning to take both of the Organics and then Bio Chem after. It would seem that the Bio Chem would be a lot more practical.

By the way, did you take Gen Chem I and II before taking the Org Chem?

Jason

[GenXnurse]

Originally Posted by MB37

That was my point - I don't understand why we don't have to take actual science courses to earn a bachelor's of SCIENCE in nursing. And yes, that's what my program required - general chem, bio 101, microbio, intro stats, an online A&P without a lab, and college algebra. There was a lot of memorizing involved, but I can't say that I actually had to learn all that much to get As in all of them (and test out of algebra).

I'm confused by this comment.

What is an "actual" science course?

Biology= Science
Microbiology=Science
General Chemistry= Science
Anatomy= Science
Physiology=Science
Pathophysiology=Science
Pharmacology=Science
Organic Chemisry=Science


Here is a quick definition that I found at dictionary.com:

Science:
–noun 1.a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences. 2.systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation. 3.any of the branches of natural or physical science. 4.systematized knowledge in general. 5.knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study. 6.a particular branch of knowledge. 7.skill, esp. reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency.


Whether you found certain classes easier than others doesn't dictate whether or not they should be considered sciences.
Furthermore, there were earlier postings that stated that individuals wouldn't enter nursing if there were more sciences. That is pure speculation and holds no merit whatsoever. In my experience, especially in critical care, there are nurses that are forever trying to expand their knowledge base- including knowledge in the core sciences.

Finally- in the strictest of definitions: the study of Nursing care is a science as well (please read the definition above). That is why it is a
bachelor's of SCIENCE of nursing (as you outlined above.)

Are you purposefully trying to hold our profession in disdain? This worries me that are pursuing an advanced degree in Nursing yet seem to not advocate for our profession.

Good luck I guess.

To the original poster: You can find an on-line organic chemisty class at University of New England. The director of the program will actually talk to you personally about the class and whether it will work for you.

[chordringer]

I thought I would just send a follow up to my message about O-Chem from earlier this year. I have enrolled in the Organic Chem I class offered through University of New England and I think it's going alright. I've got a low A in the class at the moment. Just a word of caution here, though: Prior to enrolling in this class, I only took an honors level general chemistry class. This has led me to working a lot harder at figuring out the concepts presented in the book provided. If you enroll in this class through UNE and you're in a similar situation, I would strongly recommend assembling a small library of helper books because it's the only thing that has gotten me through at this point.

And the stares I get from the nursing students in my class when carrying around my O-chem book are rather priceless. Needless to say, this class has quite a reputation for its difficult, BUT --and this is a big but-- it's doable when you are motivated.

Good luck to anyone taking the class in the future. This is one of those that makes you feel quite accomplished.

Chord