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Old May 19, 2008, 08:17 PM
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Re: MSA versus MSN

Originally Posted by wtbcrna View Post
That is not correct either. The DNAP was specifically designed to overcome the barriers of nurse anesthesia schools that are not associated with nursing schools. Check out VCU's DNAP program there is no nursing theory classes. http://www.sahp.vcu.edu/nrsa/program...curriculum.htm

Looking at the course description of the last two semesters at the above URL:
ALHP 701 Health Services Delivery Systems 3
ALHP 708 Ethics and Health Care 3
ALHP 760 Biostatistical Methods for Health Related Sciences 3

These courses seem to be the same as most MSN courses. The statistics course description does not contain specifics of doctorate level research.

Can someone explain this?

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Re: MSA versus MSN

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Looking at the course description of the last two semesters at the above URL:
ALHP 701 Health Services Delivery Systems 3
ALHP 708 Ethics and Health Care 3
ALHP 760 Biostatistical Methods for Health Related Sciences 3

These courses seem to be the same as most MSN courses. The statistics course description does not contain specifics of doctorate level research.

Can someone explain this?
They are going to be very similar (more expanded versions) as what is required by all nurse anesthesia curriculum, but there aren't any nursing theory courses. Remember also that this program is eventually going to be totally integrated with their MS in anesthesia program so there has to be some overlap.


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Old May 20, 2008, 03:23 PM
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Wow, checked out their CRNA program, only about 40k for residents. That's cheap considering my AAS RN cost about 25k

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Old May 22, 2008, 11:32 AM
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Thanks for all the responses. My thought are actually that I dont want a DNP or DNAP, I actually would like to get a PhD in Neuroscience. That being said do you think it would be better to go toa school where I will get a MSA? Oh and to clarify I am refering to MSN CRNA vs MSA CRNA.

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Old May 22, 2008, 03:44 PM
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Re: MSA versus MSN

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Thanks for all the responses. My thought are actually that I dont want a DNP or DNAP, I actually would like to get a PhD in Neuroscience. That being said do you think it would be better to go toa school where I will get a MSA? Oh and to clarify I am refering to MSN CRNA vs MSA CRNA.
I think if you truly want a PhD in neuroscience then you should do some extensive research into which program is best for your ultimate goal. Getting an MS or MSN in anesthesia has absolutely no effect on the science content taught at a particular school. I am going to one of the few nurse anesthesia schools that teach a formal/separate neuroscience course and we have an MSN program. The other thing to realize is that a PhD in neuroscience at most universities is going to take you another 5-7yrs of full time study/research and dissertation.

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Old May 22, 2008, 10:45 PM
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I have been told that we will be grandfathered in for the future push towards Doctorate prepared by 20??. Think of how many CRNA's went to diploma programs and were grandfathered in. I have been told by the AANA that the only difference is theory b/t the two. So it is truly up to the student and what they prefer and let's face it, where they get accepted.

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