[FutureRN19]

Originally Posted by wtbcrna

The AACN sets the standard for when nurse anesthesia schools will be implementing the DNP/DNAP. All other APN schools will be requiring DNP by 2015, but nurse anesthesia schools will not be requiring the DNP until 2025.
The main reason for this is that the AANA felt nurse anesthesia needed the extra time, because not all nurse anesthesia grant an MSN and many NA schools aren't even taught in conjuction with nursing schools. There are quite a few NA schools that grant MS in anethesia or just an MS degree instead of an MSN.
It is little confusing, but the idea remains the same. NA schools won't be required to implement the DNP/DNAP until 2025, although some of them (2 or 3) already have a DNP program and several more are in the planning stages for adding the DNP.

Thank you very much for clarifying! I had also emailed AACN regarding this, and this is what they replied me with, I hope this will make it clear for everyone!

Thanks for the email. The two dates for the transition to the DNP
are not true mandates, but target dates. We realize that schools,
regulatory bodies and practice settings will have to make big changes
before this important transition can occur, so a milestone was set for
stakeholders to strive toward achieving. Nurses prepared at the master's
level will be allowed to practice after 2015 with no limits to their scope
of practice. When educational requirements changes, practicing
professionals a typically grand-fathered in and that is what we expect to
happen with the DNP. I am not too familiar with the AANA's decisions
regarding the 2025 date, but you may want to check to see if that is tied
to their certification process. If they will not certified master's
prepared CRNAs after 2025, then that target date has more teeth. I hope this helps.

[SN2bExpAt]

You know this question is coming.

Why would I bother with 4 years of extra nursing school when in that same amount of time I can get a medical degree that has unlimited diversity potential?

You already need to take chem and org chem to be considered for admissions into CRNA schools. Some medical schools allow our A and P as substitutes for Biology, so that just leaves Physics as the differing pre req.

With the current and NON abating nursing shortages we face, I am puzzled as to why you damn yanks keep making it more difficult for nurses to want to get into the profession. Seriously, 8-9 years to become a neutered prescriber?

There are only 2 winners with this DNP nonsense: PA and medical schools. This "keeping up with the jones" inferiority complex driven mentality just erodes my want to stay long term in the nursing profession. The whole "look at me, I'm special too!" attitude is borderline juvenile and makes non ivory tower nurses shake our heads in shame.

[allthemadmen]

Originally Posted by SN2bExpAt

Why would I bother with 4 years of extra nursing school when in that same amount of time I can get a medical degree that has unlimited diversity potential?

You already need to take chem and org chem to be considered for admissions into CRNA schools. Some medical schools allow our A and P as substitutes for Biology, so that just leaves Physics as the differing pre req.
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Some BSN programs require physics, anyway.

When I met with a local anesthesia program's director to discuss a future application, I asked about the segue to a doctorate, and was told that when they make that change (they are a department of a medical college, not a nursing school), they will add to the 28 month program they have now, and it will probably still be under 36 months. Not only is that not four years, it is not followed by the nightmare of low-paid residency - seven or so years for anesthesiologists!- that my MD friends had to live through.

[jwk]

Originally Posted by SN2bExpAt

You know this question is coming.

Why would I bother with 4 years of extra nursing school when in that same amount of time I can get a medical degree that has unlimited diversity potential?

You already need to take chem and org chem to be considered for admissions into CRNA schools. Some medical schools allow our A and P as substitutes for Biology, so that just leaves Physics as the differing pre req.

With the current and NON abating nursing shortages we face, I am puzzled as to why you damn yanks keep making it more difficult for nurses to want to get into the profession. Seriously, 8-9 years to become a neutered prescriber?

There are only 2 winners with this DNP nonsense: PA and medical schools. This "keeping up with the jones" inferiority complex driven mentality just erodes my want to stay long term in the nursing profession. The whole "look at me, I'm special too!" attitude is borderline juvenile and makes non ivory tower nurses shake our heads in shame.

Well put Canuckistanian.

[TR1234]

Why do they have to come out with a four year program for CRNA? CRNA is already a specialty. They trained you for that only. I can understand DNP but not DCRNA.

[wingdawg]

I'm just wondering what tangible benefits there are to pursuing a Doctorate vs a Master's for CRNA.

[sirI]

Threads merged.

[bridgfor428]

is there any way we can move this thread to a pre-crna forum? this is an uneducated and misleading thread topic. i think this forum should not be dominated by questions that are ultimately of a pre-crna nature, much less ones that have insufficient research to qualify as discussion topics.

[Tweety]

Originally Posted by bridgfor428

is there any way we can move this thread to a pre-crna forum? this is an uneducated and misleading thread topic. i think this forum should not be dominated by questions that are ultimately of a pre-crna nature, much less ones that have insufficient research to qualify as discussion topics.

Agreed, the thread does seem to be more pre-CRNA oriented. Good point.

[disneydiva21]

i hope the pay scale is going to raise...