[plowboy911]

Watch for the sarcasm...

Sounds like a great idea. Why not add more theory and a few more acronyms behind our name. I recommend axing patho in favor of an additional theory course.

[RN1980]

lord i pray i get into a program before all this stuff is impletmented..the last thing i want to do is to waste time and money to get a masters instead of concentrating on the original goal of becoming a crna.

[jwk]

Originally Posted by RN1980

lord i pray i get into a program before all this stuff is impletmented..the last thing i want to do is to waste time and money to get a masters instead of concentrating on the original goal of becoming a crna.

I can't believe the CRNA's on this website can't answer questions about their own profession.

There are still thousands of CRNA's in practice with NO DEGREE!!!!! They get grandfathered in as standards and laws change. There are plenty of them out there with just a BSN and a CRNA certificate. Get a master's now and you will be able to practice until you retire. It doesn't all turn to doodoo in 2015 or 2025 just because the stupid DNP comes along. And remember - NO STATE REQUIRES A DOCTORATE IN NURSING FOR ANYTHING, nor are they likely to do so for decades if ever. Almost 40 years ago, people were just sure that a BSN would be the entry level for nursing. IT'S NEVER HAPPENED! RN's with associate degrees or hospital diplomas are still - say it with me - RN's.

[elkpark]

Originally Posted by RN1980

lord i pray i get into a program before all this stuff is impletmented..the last thing i want to do is to waste time and money to get a masters instead of concentrating on the original goal of becoming a crna.

I'm not following you -- you have to get a master's now to become a CRNA ... ??

[FutureRN19]

ok, I am totally confused! what exactly are they saying? will it be implemented by 2015 or 2025? I did read on the website, saying that AANA Supports Doctorate for APN's by year 2025. If this is the case, then why is everyone mentioning 2015? ANYONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS MISUNDERSTANDING FROM MY SIDE!

-THANKS

[RN1980]

i'm relating to the fact that i hope that can get into a program before any new bylaws that are passed that require a crna applicant to already have a msn behind their name.. and obviously i also pray that i'm able to get into a program in my area that is'nt doing this doctrate thing aswell.

[NRSKarenRN]

Clarification:

CRNA programs grant a masters degree at graduation---type varies by facility. Plan is instead of granting a Masters degree, program will change to grant a Doctor of Nursing Practice degree(DNP) in Anesthesia. One would enter these programs after BS degree obtained and minimum of 1 yr Critical Care experience (may change to 2 hrs).

Graduates of physician education programs receive Doctor of Medicine (MD) or Doctor of Osteopathy (DO)
Graduates of Law programs receive Juris Doctorate( JD)
Pharmacy graduates receive (PharmD).

These programs grant a professional practice doctorate in area of concentration, instead of granting an MS degree in medicine, law, pharmacy etc

Due to the in depth knowledge now expected to be learned by advanced health care clinicians, Nursing in proposing to move to same level field.

www.aacn.nche.edu for AACN’s Essentials of Doctoral Education for Advanced Nursing Practice and the AACN Position Statement on the Practice Doctorate in Nursing. ---they propose all advanced practice by 2015

AANA is looking for transition by 2025.

Check out the Online Journal of Issues in Nursing with articles for and against the DNP for advanced practice nursing.
The Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP): Need for More Dialogue

[CerebralCRNA]

Originally Posted by NRSKarenRN

Clarification:

Most CRNA programs grant a masters degree at graduation---type varies by facility. Plan is instead of granting a Masters degree, program will change to grant a Doctor of Nursing Practice degree(DNP) in Anesthesia. One would enter these programs after BS degree obtained and minimum of 1 yr Critical Care experience (may change to 2 hrs).

Graduates of physician education programs receive Doctor of Medicine (MD) or Doctor of Osteopathy (DO)
Graduates of Law programs receive Juris Doctorate( JD)
Pharmacy graduates receive (PharmD).

These programs grant a professional practice doctorate in area of concentration, instead of granting an MS degree in medicine, law, pharmacy etc

Due to the in depth knowledge now expected to be learned by advanced health care clinicians, Nursing in proposing to move to same level field.

www.aacn.nche.edu for AACN’s Essentials of Doctoral Education for Advanced Nursing Practice and the AACN Position Statement on the Practice Doctorate in Nursing. ---they propose all advanced practice by 2015

AANA is looking for transition by 2025.

Check out the Online Journal of Issues in Nursing with articles for and against the DNP for advanced practice nursing.
The Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP): Need for More Dialogue

Do you guys even have a CRNA moderator?

ALL CRNA programs are now Master's Degree programs, it has been that way for many years now.

One of the reasons this forum is terrible is that non-CRNAs are moderating and censoring this forum and putting out incorrect information.

[NRSKarenRN]

That what happens when posting late after 13hrs at work... Removed " most" as CRNA education at masters level for several years.

[wtbcrna]

Originally Posted by FutureRN19

ok, I am totally confused! what exactly are they saying? will it be implemented by 2015 or 2025? I did read on the website, saying that AANA Supports Doctorate for APN's by year 2025. If this is the case, then why is everyone mentioning 2015? ANYONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS MISUNDERSTANDING FROM MY SIDE!

-THANKS

The AANA sets the standard for when nurse anesthesia schools will be implementing the DNP/DNAP. All other APN schools will be requiring DNP by 2015, but nurse anesthesia schools will not be requiring the DNP until 2025.
The main reason for this is that the AANA felt nurse anesthesia needed the extra time, because not all nurse anesthesia grant an MSN and many NA schools aren't even taught in conjuction with nursing schools. There are quite a few NA schools that grant MS in anethesia or just an MS degree instead of an MSN.
It is little confusing, but the idea remains the same. NA schools won't be required to implement the DNP/DNAP until 2025, although some of them (2 or 3) already have a DNP program and several more are in the planning stages for adding the DNP.