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Apr 11, 2008, 11:40 AM
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Is a No Call No show abandonment?
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HI All!
I am a CNA in Michigan and I have a question. I got a job, did one day of shadowing/orientation and was scheduled for 3 total days. I saw several issues with the facility and decided it wasn't for me. Could this or any other no call/no show be considered abandonment?
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Apr 11, 2008, 11:52 AM
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Re: Is a No Call No show abandonment?
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If you found the facility to be unacceptable, why not resign?
I don't believe that a no call/ no show constitutes abandonment, but it is highly unprofessional and may damage your future job prospects.
Your concerns could be eliminated by simply notifying the DON prior to your next scheduled shift that you will not be returning.
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Apr 11, 2008, 11:56 AM
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Re: Is a No Call No show abandonment?
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I totally agree to Jolie. Why on earth didnt you just call? At my hospital a no call no show is grounds for termination and rightly so. God forbid my replacement did not come in at 0700. That puts a much greater work load on the sched staff who did show up not to mention the added stress of mgmt 1st trying to track you down to see if you just slept in, or got a flat tire, then to try and get on the phone and recruit someone in to come and cover your now abandoned shift.
Nurses and DON are like elephants in the sence of they never forget. If your wanting a career in nursing dont screw over a facility no matter how unacceptable you think it is. You dont know who knows who and who will someday be interviewing you for a job.
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Apr 11, 2008, 12:05 PM
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Re: Is a No Call No show abandonment?
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No call/no shows are not counted as abandonment because the person never assumed care. However it is highly unprofessional and grounds for termination in almost every facility I have worked at. Now that facility can say that they fired you instead of you being able to say that it wasn't a right fit.
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Apr 11, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Is a No Call No show abandonment?
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I agree that even resigning without notice would be more appropriate than just not coming back. As far as pt abandonment, I was taught that aides can't be formally charged with abandonment, since they work under the delegation of the nurse, whose assignment the patients are. That is, "my" aide may see the patients as "her" patients, but they are actually my patients, and I just let her play with them. (Nice of me, I know.) Under our nurse practice act, though, she really kinda is "my" aide, because the aide is assigned to the nurse, not the patient.
Of course, the real world is a bit different than theory, so I only refer to aides possessively if we're on good enough terms to do so, and if an aide is running her butt off because she "has" 12 patients, I generally don't point out that technically she only has two nurses.
If an aide walked off in mid-shift, a facility might use "abandonment" as grounds for dismissal, but legally, it would technically be something else--dereliction of duties, for example.
Of course, the certifying body for CNAs may have its own definitions, as well. But I can't picture any definition that would apply if you hadn't come in and taken an assignment.
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Apr 11, 2008, 08:22 PM
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Re: Is a No Call No show abandonment?
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I should add here, that I did let them know that It was going to work out. They considered it a no call/no show despite me letting them know.
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