[LadyJRN1]

Originally Posted by Furwillfly

Didn't get a chance to finish my post.
LadyJrn1:
It is RN's like you that think they are higher than anyone else that gives our profession its awful reputation. Yes, you have a right to your opinion, but it was distasteful and disrespectful. And that is my RN opinion. You definately were treated badly because of your high opinion of yourself. I gaurantee it.

The RN/LPN status will never go away and RN's will always be looked at in society as a "real nurse." This is the way it is. I have had bad experiences with LPN's and nurses aides and until I meet one who is not a trouble maker and one who does not wish to be deceitful, gossip, and cause emotional and mental anguish to an RN, then I will possibly change my mind, until then my opinion of the LPN and the nurses aide is very poor.

[eldragon]

Originally Posted by LadyJRN1

Yes, I am afraid to say that LPN's and nurses aides in LTC are at the bottom of the food tree and my experiences with them have not been positive. Where I worked in LTC, these two catagories of workers have caused more interpersonal conflicts and issues between RN's and staff that people lost their jobs over it. I hate to say it, but LPN's and nurses aides will never be what RN's are but wish to be, and this is why they are not nice people in the working environment. Funny, I was an LPN before I became an RN and still to this day, I have never tried to cause trouble for any other nurse and this I am proud of. I have a high standard of ethics for myself and wish no grief on anyone else.

For someone as intelligent and educated as you'd like to believe yourself to be, it seems you would know that the expression is "food chain" not food tree.

But then again, I was a writer long before I became a lowly LPN.

You were once an LPN and became an RN. My guess is that you had to go to school for an additional 9 months. And somehow that makes you superior than an LPN?

I can assure you that your ethics are no more superior than mine. It sounds like you are an extremely bitter person who has let your two-year degree go to your head. I can only hope that you run into some NP's and M.D's with the same degree of ignorance.

[eldragon]

Originally Posted by LadyJRN1

The RN/LPN status will never go away and RN's will always be looked at in society as a "real nurse." This is the way it is. I have had bad experiences with LPN's and nurses aides and until I meet one who is not a trouble maker and one who does not wish to be deceitful, gossip, and cause emotional and mental anguish to an RN, then I will possibly change my mind, until then my opinion of the LPN and the nurses aide is very poor.

How can you generalize so much and still consider yourself a professional?

[LadyJRN1]

Originally Posted by eldragon

For someone as intelligent and educated as you'd like to believe yourself to be, it seems you would know that the expression is "food chain" not food tree.

But then again, I was a writer long before I became a lowly LPN.

You were once an LPN and became an RN. My guess is that you had to go to school for an additional 9 months. And somehow that makes you superior than an LPN?

I can assure you that your ethics are no more superior than mine. It sounds like you are an extremely bitter person who has let your two-year degree go to your head. I can only hope that you run into some NP's and M.D's with the same degree of ignorance.

Chain or tree, it is still at the bottom isn't it? As far as my degree, it is much more than a two year degree and I worked and payed extremely hard for it. That is why when I was an LPN, I always strived for more and wanted to be more than just a "glorified aide" pushing a med cart and fixing boo-boos. I will not apologize for wanting more and wanting to be the best which is why LPN are on the extinction list and many LPN are going on to be RN. Haven't you been asked as an LPN at one point in your career "aren't you going on to be an RN?" Doesn't that make you feel like you are at the bottom of the heap? Doctors and NP's would much rather deal with RN's than LPN's and you know and I know that is the truth. There is nothing that I have not said here that isn't the truth.

[Happy2CU]

Originally Posted by LadyJRN1

The RN/LPN status will never go away and RN's will always be looked at in society as a "real nurse." This is the way it is. I have had bad experiences with LPN's and nurses aides and until I meet one who is not a trouble maker and one who does not wish to be deceitful, gossip, and cause emotional and mental anguish to an RN, then I will possibly change my mind, until then my opinion of the LPN and the nurses aide is very poor.

Wow, such attitude and such generalization.

I'm simply blown away.

[chevyv]

WOW!! I am very surprised by some postings on this thread!!! I'm amazed that people can fail to realize that we are a team and should work together. I was a CNA for 12 yrs and I never would have thought nurses looked at me as a bottom feeder. I would never think that of someone who was helping me be a good team leader (RN to LPN to CNA- hello team!) The nurses that are mean rarely get the help they should have from us bottom feeders and I bet at least one poster here gets the cold shoulder from most of her 'team'. I hope as a RN if a patient needs the bed pan we can all not only put a pt on it, but also clean them up when they're done and not call the CNA for that!
Most of the CNA's and LPN's I've worked with have always been willing to help out others and rarely did we gossip about anyone else. Even as a student, I help out on the floor and guess what? When I need help, the favor is always returned. It helps to remember to treat others the way you want to be treated.
In LTC, the RN's are usually running to each floor and still manage to jump in to help feed or whatever we need. What a shame that some should value their title more than the reason why we come together. Sounds bitter to me.

[BradleyRN]

Originally Posted by LadyJRN1

my opinion of the LPN and the nurses aide is very poor.

LadyJRN1,
Please stop while you are behind. This is ALLNURSES.COM, which include CNA's and LPN's. I really cant believe the things you are saying here. It's like promoting deforestation at a global warming rally. You should definitely apologize to these people that you are deeply offending, and go home and work on improving yourself. If a bald-headed man once mugged you, would you then hate all bald men for the rest of your life? No you wouldnt. There are bad CNA's, LPN's, and RN's out there. I have witnessed all three but as a CNA, LPN and RN myself, i know there are many good ones as well. I am one of them and so are the others you are angering in this thread. Please apologize and stop this, both here and at your job. I was supporting you in two other threads just last night. Now i am supporting you one more time. This is the real root of your problems.

[LadyJRN1]

I am entitled to an opinion regardless of how it offends anyone. I have had nothing but bad experiences with LPN's and CNA's, bottom line. They have caused me nothing but grief and mental anguish. Do I look down upon them? Who knows, but this is what has happened to me. I will not apologize for offending anyone if my entries have offended anyone and I will not at any time believe being an RN is on any level equal to an LPN or an CNA, that is not how I was trained to believe or will I think differently. End of story - I was simply voicing my experience and what happened to me.

[sunfire1725]

I am an RN Supervisor at a LTC facility. Right now we have 114 residents, All supervisors were I work have a floor assignment with about 30 residents ( feeding tubes, numerous blood sugars, dressings, and many hospice) and are responsible for the other 114 residents in the building the other LPN's and CNA's. Going on rounds with the MD three days a week, calling the MD for new orders, admitting and discharging residents, sending to hospital. Finding coverage for all call offs, mounds of paperwork, charting, dealing with family members, and basically everything and anything that can and will happen. I would love to work in a LTC facility where the Supervisor did just that supervise. I once heard one of the MD who does rounds here make the comment that we are like a miniature hospital and not LTC because of the accute residents we have been getting. In accordance with the law at my facility there has to be an RN in the building at all times.

[Chloe'sinNYNow]

Originally Posted by sunfire1725

I am an RN Supervisor at a LTC facility. Right now we have 114 residents, All supervisors were I work have a floor assignment with about 30 residents ( feeding tubes, numerous blood sugars, dressings, and many hospice) and are responsible for the other 114 residents in the building the other LPN's and CNA's. Going on rounds with the MD three days a week, calling the MD for new orders, admitting and discharging residents, sending to hospital. Finding coverage for all call offs, mounds of paperwork, charting, dealing with family members, and basically everything and anything that can and will happen. I would love to work in a LTC facility where the Supervisor did just that supervise. I once heard one of the MD who does rounds here make the comment that we are like a miniature hospital and not LTC because of the accute residents we have been getting. In accordance with the law at my facility there has to be an RN in the building at all times.

Sunfire,
Thank you for ANSWERING THE O.P.!!

(I needed to know this too!)

Chloe
RN-BSN, BA