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Old May 26, 2007, 07:49 PM
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Could use some opinions and/or advice.

*Deep breath* I am a new LPN. I took a part-time job at a respected LTC facility. I was hired to take over for the nurse on maternity leave. The unit I work in is AACU, ADVANCED Alzheimers Care Unit. I work the 7-3 shift, have 32 or so residents. The LPN is responsible for all treatments, all meds, serving meals (CNA's serve the snacks), new orders, incident reports, etc...! I am still orienting but am feeling like a robot at times. How in the world do I get to know the residents and what may or may not be 'normal' for them when all I do is kill myself to get meds out on time- (2 hour window), (which NEVER happens with ANY of the nurses that I have talked to). There are supposed to be 3 CNAs on my shift but often someone calls in sick or is a no-show. Then there is the issue of not being allowed to do certain things in 'public' places like eye drops, insulin... We cannot pass them their meds if they are doing an activity, or eating or ?.... How can I EVER get organized? Often I have to 'look' for the resident to give meds. I keep hearing, "oh, you'll get the hang of it". Pardon me, but there is NO WAY these residents get the attention that they need from nursing. Any thoughts?

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Old May 26, 2007, 09:06 PM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

It does take time. You are a new nurse. You are still in orientation. If you still feel that way near the end of your orientation, speak to the DON and request a little longer. I know that nurses have a lot of responsibility in LTC, I can't even imagine being responsible for meals (goodness gracious!), but it does get easier once you get a routine. Ask other nurses there how they manage the time.

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Old May 26, 2007, 11:06 PM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

There's the state's way and then there's reality. If your facility is so strict on certain things, then have the ADON, or DON do it in a timely manner and by the book. Yes it's nice practice (doing it by the book), but it's not real. I just graduated last year and took my first LTC job in Dec. 2006, I quit three days later. Then they actually called me back to give me a more in depth training. Well after it was all said and done, I learned my patients and what each one liked and then I figured out safe shortcuts so that I could spend more time with my residents rather than spending 4 hours doing my morning med pass strictly by the book. You'll find your niche. Like my instructor always said, when in Rome, do as the Romans do. They may tell you they do it by the book but ........ And for any LTC nurses who say they do it strictly by the book with 30+ residents, please tell me how, because obviously I'm not cut out for this type of work.

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Old May 27, 2007, 01:45 PM
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I worked quite a few LTC jobs over the years. Many times I had 50 residents to do all the same things you mentioned having to do. I was always working full time. It often took several weeks before I even started to feel like I was getting to know the patients. The first weeks of a job were pretty much trying to digest all the information about the facility and the way they do things. Then, trying to get through all the regular routines of giving medications, the treatments and dealing with the CNA assignments. My immediate goal in the first weeks was to just get through each day, get all the meds passed and all the treatments done. Once I began to get settled in after 3 or 4 weeks (working 5 days a week) I began to start getting to know the patients. This all takes time to figure out.

You said you are working part time, so it's going to take you longer. You haven't said how long you've been at this job. If it's been 6 months, then I'd say you've got a problem. But, if you've only been at it, part time, for a month or two, you're being too hard on yourself.

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Old May 27, 2007, 03:52 PM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

This is a bit sideways to the thread but how do you identify your residents for drug rounds when you are new? Our drug Kardex has a photo of each resident beside their prescription sheet so that new staff can identify them,after all a lot of the residents don't know who they are!

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Old May 27, 2007, 07:11 PM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

It is bad advice to tell a new nurse to forgo doing it by the book and to use 'safe' shortcuts. It is possible to do it by the book although it takes time and a lot of organizational skills. Your patients need the right med in the right dose and the right route a lot more than they need you to 'be' with them. I am not heartless and long for the days when patients weren't so sick and we did have time to 'be' with them, but these days when most patients on a subacute floor would have still been in the hospital 10 years ago, we need to do more than just be there.

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Old May 27, 2007, 07:55 PM
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I have to agree with the cape cod mermaid. I would never ever not go by the book, especially as a new nurse, nor would I ever recommend it. It is one thing for a very experienced nurse to take a shortcut here and there, they know the exact timing of things and have a pretty good guess of how things will fly, but to start out taking shortcuts? Not a good move for your career. You gotta learn the ropes, and sometimes it is damn hard, you may have to move on to the next job to find easier ones, but everyone knows that nursing is a learning by doing experience.

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Old May 28, 2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

LTC is fun, especially Alzheimer's. Learn to embrace the chaos. It isn't going to go away. The nurses I work with get everything done and have plenty of time to be with the residents. We have a fantastic administrator and DON, which make a HUGE difference.

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Old May 28, 2007, 09:09 PM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

For you that spoke of not taking shortcuts and doing it strictly by the book, I commend you, especially if you have 30+residents, treatments, new admits, someone going bad and two aides. If your that good, let me know your secret, because I was trained by very seasoned LPN's and RN's and they say do your best and bless the rest, because you are only one person. No I do not leave out anything in their treatment or medications, but there are ways to cut corners. As much as I'd like to chase someone down to give eyedrops in their room, when it's time and they don't want to go to their room, the hallway it is. I've not made an error yet and my patients are well taken care of. Or when a nurse calls in and I have 50 residents, my choice is either do my best or walk out and not except the assignment. I'd like to see some of the state inspectors do a better job than most of us do with some of the rules they put on us.

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Old May 29, 2007, 06:48 AM
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Re: Could use some opinions and/or advice.

Again "do your best and bless the rest" is fine AFTER you've been a nurse for a while, but to start out with short cuts is bad practice.
Some of the rules are absurd, but they still are rules so we all have to learn how to cope with them.
We always schedule the majority of our gtube meds on the 11-7 shift if they are given once a day. The patient doesn't suffer and the surveyors aren't there to make you go crazy.
Giving meds in the hallways-against the regs...BUT if you know your patient is always in the hall way at med time, either change the time of her meds OR write it in her careplan that she wants her meds given where she wants them. We had a woman who refused to have her blood sugar checked in her room but didn't mind a bit if we did it while she was in the hall by the nurses' station. So, we care planned it that way and documented in a nurse's note and we were fine.
Learn the right way first and then you'll be able to take safe shortcuts.

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