[romie]

Homophobia affects EVERYONE--not just gay people. Homophobia affects the heterosexual male hairdresser and heterosexual female police officer and heterosexual male nurse. It also affects the heterosexual man who with a higher pitched voice, fluid arm and hand movements and whatever it is that homophobes think defines gay people. Absurdly, homophobia affects the heterosexual man who wears a pink shirt--can people get anymore idiotic?

Gay men can be just as attracted to masculine men and feminine men. Gay women can also be attracted to feminine women and masculine women.

I wish people would worry less about what private behaviors other people might engage in and worry more about whether someone is a good hairdresser/nurse/cop/flutist!

Fortunately times are changing both in people's acceptance of others orientation as well as male nurses. In my facility everyone pretty much agrees that NURSE= Big bucks! and have nothing but respect for all of the nurses.

[Roy Fokker]

Originally Posted by Corvette Guy

My point being when an individual is in a career field that is predominantly opposite of such individual's gender it is very appropriate for clarities sake to give recognition of one's gender, i.e. a female police officer, a female firefighter, a male nurse.

We don't do that with race - why do it with gender?

For example:
Let us assume 20% of all engineers in the US are Black.
When a black man builds a famous bridge, we don't say "the Engineer, XYZ, a black man, built this bridge". We just say "The engineeer, XYZ, built this bridge".



You have every right to feel pride in being called a "Male Nurse".

To me it's just pointless/needless.

To each his own

[Roy Fokker]

Originally Posted by romie

I wonder if the issue of men in nursing would be lessened if men who practice nursing were not percieved to be gay?

Or better... "Not good enough for Med school"

[Corvette Guy]

Originally Posted by Roy Fokker

We don't do that with race - why do it with gender?

For example:
Let us assume 20% of all engineers in the US are Black.
When a black man builds a famous bridge, we don't say "the Engineer, XYZ, a black man, built this bridge". We just say "The engineeer, XYZ, built this bridge".



You have every right to feel pride in being called a "Male Nurse".

To me it's just pointless/needless.

To each his own

I must disagree... we do in fact do such with race, too. Very few NFL coaches are minority, especially Black. Everytime a coaching vacancy comes up a lot of publicity takes place on how many Black candidate coaches are available. I've heard many times on ESPN made reference to how many Black coaches are in the NFL.

It is human nature to categorize based on gender, race, etc. I'm not saying it is right, or wrong but to say it is needless, pointless, and does not exist is inaccurate, IMHO.

[jb2u]

WHEN i graduate (may 2007) i just want to be called NURSE....you can call me male nurse, man nurse...i don't care just call me NURSE! it does not bother me to be called nurse. to me "male nurse" seems kinda obvious. if i'm talking to someone and they say oh your a male nurse..i mean you see me obviously i am a male...can't you just say oh your a nurse.

i don't really like the whole male nurse = gay male thing, but society is what it is.....until it changes! and it will as more men are secure enough to enter a female dominated profession. personally nursing offers me everything that i want from a profession, becoming a doctor would not!!! the choice was simple.

thanks to all nurses,
jay

p.s. if i go into travel nursing, on my resume, instead of "male nurse" can i just say "jay R.N., have balls will travel!!!"

[Kevin0507]

it doesnt bother me at all. male nurse = nurse. most people like the idea that i had the nerve to go into a "womans field."

[K98]

I've been a law enforcement officer for over 20 years, I've been called worse

[Darth Nightingale]

Being called a Nurse doesn't bug me. I think I would dislike being called a "Head Nurse" of a unit. There's just something about this term that leaves a bad taste in my mouth...no pun intended.

[Corvette Guy]

Originally Posted by Kevin0507

it doesnt bother me at all. male nurse = nurse. most people like the idea that i had the nerve to go into a "womans field."

When I hear talk of nursing as a womans field I cringe. My distaste for such talk is certainly not against my fellow sisters in nursing, nor against you [Kevin0507]. The correlation between nursing as a handmaiden profession & as a woman's field is where I'm going with this dislike. I'm not dissing you [Kevin0507] at all but I hate the idea that the nursing profession has long been considered a "woman's field". This outdated Nightingale conception does harm to both men & women in the profession. Nursing stopped being a handmaiden profession decades ago. The public needs to be educated in the importance nurses play in the collaboration team effort of patient health care. The autonomy bestowed upon the many varied areas of nursing specialties lends creedence to the fact nurses are no longer handmaidens.

BTW, I realize may ramble may be slightly off topic nor was directed specifically to Kevin0507.

[Kevin0507]

Originally Posted by Corvette Guy

When I hear talk of nursing as a womans field I cringe. My distaste for such talk is certainly not against my fellow sisters in nursing, nor against you [Kevin0507]. The correlation between nursing as a handmaiden profession & as a woman's field is where I'm going with this dislike. I'm not dissing you [Kevin0507] at all but I hate the idea that the nursing profession has long been considered a "woman's field". This outdated Nightingale conception does harm to both men & women in the profession. Nursing stopped being a handmaiden profession decades ago. The public needs to be educated in the importance nurses play in the collaboration team effort of patient health care. The autonomy bestowed upon the many varied areas of nursing specialties lends creedence to the fact nurses are no longer handmaidens.

BTW, I realize may ramble may be slightly off topic nor was directed specifically to Kevin0507.

i agree, but it is still considered a "woman's field" by most of America