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Old Feb 22, 2005, 02:56 PM
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I can only see positive things coming from having an open forum where men can voice their comments.
A separate forum does not convey this at all to me. It seems one-sided. Perhaps because i do not see nursing or anything for that matter as "female" this or "male" that.

Flame away, please.


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Old Feb 22, 2005, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Marie_LPN
A separate forum does not convey this at all to me. It seems one-sided. Perhaps because i do not see nursing or anything for that matter as "female" this or "male" that.

Flame away, please.
ahh, Marie...

... I read your post, then noticed your sig line.

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Old Feb 22, 2005, 03:45 PM
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Hi Marie,

No flames here, just my opinion... There obviously, is a strong interest for men in nursing to discuss issues that may be uniqe to male nurses, what is wrong about bringing these issues in the open and discussing them? Or should men be expected to stifle these issues and emotions and not discuss them???

Just because some think that men in nursing should not have any issues does not mean that they DO NOT have issues. There are obviously issues that men feel they wish to discuss, or we would not have had so many request for the forum.

This idea of this forum is not to divide nurses male and female, but rather organize topics being discussed, such as all the specialty forums etc... if we lumped all the forums into one general forum, it would be difficult to find and discuss specific topics.

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Old Feb 22, 2005, 03:54 PM
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Hi Marie,

There obviously, is a strong interest for men in nursing to discuss issues that may be uniqe to male nurses, what is wrong about bringing these issues in the open and discussing them?
Never said there was anything wrong with it. I just do not agree on a gender-specific forum.

Or should men be expected to stifle these issues and emotions and not discuss them???
I would think a separate forum might suggest that the issues and emotions concerning nurses that are male, do not belong in the other forums.


Just because some think that men in nursing should not have any issues does not mean that they DO NOT have issues.
Never thought that, never said that.



This idea of this forum is not to divide nurses male and female
I feel that it does.


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Old Feb 22, 2005, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jnette
ahh, Marie...

... I read your post, then noticed your sig line.
Thanks, i appreciated that.

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Old Feb 22, 2005, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Marie_LPN
Thanks, i appreciated that.
aw, Marie... I was jess playin' with ya, Girl !

Your opinion is welcome and valid.. no hard feelings, k? Jess' playin'.

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Old Feb 24, 2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Marie_LPN
A separate forum does not convey this at all to me. It seems one-sided. Perhaps because i do not see nursing or anything for that matter as "female" this or "male" that.

Flame away, please.
You mean because we voice our comments anyway without the new male forum? That's true. You and I have discussed this before and as a man I definitely think that the media and some people in general make way too big a deal out of men going into nursing.
We're still the minority by far but it's hardly anything new.
I think that female input is still quite valuable in whatever issues get discussed here.
For instance, I'm no longer an LPN but I still visit and participate in LPN threads because I'm interested and concerned about issues that affect LPN practice and employment and I think that my previous LPN experience has something valuable to offer in these discussions.
I also no longer work in Med/Surg (thank God) but still interested in Med/Surg issues and still like to stay in touch with what's happening on those awful Med/Surg floors these days and what those poor nurses endure on a daily basis. (Not that ICU is any picnic either but better for me)

I guess I don't have any issues about being a male RN right now because I don't feel that I get treated any differently by my female colleagues and there are a lot of men working on my unit.
But I have had jobs in the past where I was treated differently because I was the only guy on the floor and was used as a mule to be worked and received the heaviest lifting patients (or most combative patients) and even if I wasn't assigned to them I was called out of my patient's rooms to do their heavy work for them. Often from out of shape RN's who obviously got paid more than I did as an LPN but seemed to think that it was my job to take care of their patients for them.
I'm 5'8" and weigh 140-145 lbs yet was supposed to somehow keep the combative patients in check and get 250-300 lb patients out of bed because "you're the man on the floor."
This happened to me at more than one facility so I know that it goes on elsewhere and I'm not alone in this.
And perhaps because you're a female you can't see this because you haven't experienced it or it never went on anywhere you worked so you never saw it.
That's just one example of male specific issues that I think are important to be discussed here.
But we do agree that there is way to much hype out there about men in nursing.


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Old Mar 02, 2005, 12:32 AM
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I think that by making a seperate forum, it creates/reinforces the idea that men in nursing are different and special. I can't really think of an issue that couldn't be discussed out in the regular forums, just as many other topics regarding men in nursing have.

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Old Mar 02, 2005, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jen,SN
I think that by making a seperate forum, it creates/reinforces the idea that men in nursing are different and special. I can't really think of an issue that couldn't be discussed out in the regular forums, just as many other topics regarding men in nursing have.

There aren't any issues that can't be discussed on other forums. But why have a Canadian Nurses Forum? Or a UK Forum? Or separate forums for the states? Can't all nurse's issues be discussed on one forum?

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Old Mar 02, 2005, 12:43 AM
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Marie, you certainly are entitled to your opinion that have a nurses forum for men is divisive. I don't think so. After all, we've survived Male Nurses Associations, Christian Nurses Associations and Black Nurses Associations as well. Sometimes celebrating what is unique and diverse doesn't have to divide.

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