[EmileeMc]

I am doing a project for my last semester of nursing school and my group has the hypothetical pt of "the pt is an alcoholic and wants a liver transplant" ...Please state if u agree that the pt should/ shouldn't...why...and if u think that under certain cicumstances the pt should please list....thanks so much

If anyone is a nurse and deals w/ this kinda thing plz if I could have an email or something to contact u about the details...would be awsome!! thanks everyone!

[jmgrn65]

Well hypothetically I would not want them to have the transplant unless they have proven that they haven't drank for awhile.
In Reality, not everyone that needs a transplant can just get one, they have to have a suport system in place, they have to prove that they aren't currently using alcohol or drugs, they have to go thru a lot of tests and procedure it is a very difficult process.

[sunnyjohn]

An alcoholic would never pass the screening to get on the UNOS list.

"The paitient should be counseled to stop his/her drinking and put in a program to help him become sober."

[earle58]

from my understanding, the pt goes through a series of tests, to determine if s/he will return to or abstain from drinking, s/p transplant.
many doctors are granting these transplants to viable candidates, presuming that abstinence will be the goal.

leslie

[texas_lvn]

O.k. Here it goes, with all the advice you have already gotten, my personal belief is that everyone gets a second chance. I know, fat people bring about heart conditions, smokers have lung conditions and so on. Sometimes the transplant is what is needed to "save" their life. I am not talking just physically, but emotionally as well. Who are we to deny that one last chance. Something comes to mind about throwing stones in a glass house.
Now, with that said, as stated above, counseling, and other major conditions need to be in place, and if this alcoholic comes back needing a new liver because he continues to drink, well no. You had your chance. Hope this helps. From the way I read your post it was asking personal opinions. Thanks. Texas

[Marie_LPN, RN]

If i see, for example, an adult that has had liver issues since the day they were born on the transplant list passed up by someone who drank their liver to the sewer, the non-nurse me would resent that. However, the alcoholic receiving the transplant would get treated just as well as anyone else receiving the transplant.

(Mickey Mantle and Larry Hagman come to mind. I'm sure money never talked there. )

[traumaRUs]

I work in dialysis and have several patients on the transplant (kidney, liver, pancreas). There are very strict criteria as another poster alluded to. Our liver program is at Northwestern in Chicago and they require compliance with meds and treatment as well as documented sobriety for one year.

This is very necessary to ensure that these scarce organs go to those who will have the best chance to be successful.

[VickyRN]

How did Larry Hagman get his liver? A bit off topic I know, but he was an alcoholic...

http://www.famoustexans.com/larryhagman.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hagman
http://www.ultimatedallas.com/news/larryhealth.htm

[TheCommuter]

Originally Posted by VickyRN

How did Larry Hagman get his liver? A bit off topic I know, but he was an alcoholic...

http://www.famoustexans.com/larryhagman.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Hagman
http://www.ultimatedallas.com/news/larryhealth.htm

Cash rules everything around us.....and Larry Hagman has the cash and influence to get what he needs. Everyone knows that celebrities are usually bumped up the transplant waiting list because society tends to place more value on their lives.

By the way, my mom received a liver transplantation over 4 years ago and I am so thankful she got a second chance at life. My mom was never an alcoholic, though.

[jesa]

[quote=sunnyjohn]An alcoholic would never pass the screening to get on the UNOS list.

that's not true, as a recovering alcoholic I know an alcoholic who is waiting for a transplant.

that being said, I'm sure you can guess where I stand obviously as a recovering alcoholic I think it's ok for someone in RECOVERY (however that person chooses to do that) and is abstaining from drinking.