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Jun 28, 2005, 12:27 PM
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A few more questions! (ADN vs BSN and... Pre-Req's)
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I've got a few questions...
I am leaning toward an ADN, for time and money sake... but thought I'd ask about my schools pre-req's! They don't seem as bad as a lot of people have made them seem!
Pathophysiology, Pharmacology, English Comp, Human Growth and Development, A & P 1, A & P 2, 1 Humanities class. (That's it!)
My other question is this... I've heard that the pre-req's for a BSN are just included in your schooling, is that true?? If I can afford to just go do my BSN then should I do that? Or would the ADN classes be a little more simple?
Thanks for putting up with a confused newbies questions!
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Jun 28, 2005, 01:59 PM
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the classes you have sound about right for the ADN schools where I am at.. I do know that most BSN programs include most of your general ed classes with the program but you are still required to have your Chem, and Bio to get into the BSN programs. Good luck to you!
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Jun 28, 2005, 02:38 PM
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John 3:16
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Originally Posted by GirlCalledJack
Pathophysiology, Pharmacology, English Comp, Human Growth and Development, A & P 1, A & P 2, 1 Humanities class. (That's it!)............................
That's IT???  I'm SHOCKED that those are the only pre-reqs that school requires! Wow!
I'm an associate degree grad (eighteen years ago), but geez! My school was no way as easy as your school sounds.
My college pre-req requirements were: Allied Health Math, English Comp I, English Comp II, Sociology I, Sociology II, Psychology I, Psychology II, Introduction to Chemistry, Pharmacology, A&P I, A&P II, and an elective (preferably Speech), Introduction to Computer Concept or the option: Computers for Nursing Students Class); Life Span and Human Development, and Microbiology.
Sounds like your school's program is way too easy. The students are not being educated enough in preparation for nursing.
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Jun 28, 2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cheerfuldoer
That's IT???  I'm SHOCKED that those are the only pre-reqs that school requires! Wow!
I'm an associate degree grad (eighteen years ago), but geez! My school was no way as easy as your school sounds.
My college pre-req requirements were: Allied Health Math, English Comp I, English Comp II, Sociology I, Sociology II, Psychology I, Psychology II, Introduction to Chemistry, Pharmacology, A&P I, A&P II, and an elective (preferably Speech), Introduction to Computer Concept or the option: Computers for Nursing Students Class); Life Span and Human Development, and Microbiology.
Sounds like your school's program is way too easy. The students are not being educated enough in preparation for nursing. 
Some of the classes you are reffering to can be taken in conjunction with your nursing rotation. That's why it's a 2 year program. Most students where I go complete all of the classes you are referring to and then some b/c of the wait lists, but most classes after your basic science, math, and english can be taken at the same time as your nursing classes. No the programs are not EASY, just DIFFERENT than what you knew when you went to school.
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Jun 28, 2005, 03:02 PM
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Here is exactly what the information I have says...
Wait List
ENG 121 (Basic Comp)
PSY 235 (Human Growth and Development)
BIO 201 (A&P 1)
Nursing aptitude
Admission list
Wait List Courses
Bio 202 (A&P 2)
Admission to Program
Admission List Courses
HPR 216 (Pathophysiology)
Humanities Elective (AGS core)
Requirements prior to wait list
1. Select maximum of two program or site options
2. Must have application and official transcripts available at college of choice
3. Passing score on the nursing aptitude test
4. Science courses valid for no more than 7 years prior to admission
Requirements prior to program admission
1. Must meet college level basic skills: minimum MAT 090, REA 090
2. Minimum GPA of 2.5 in ENG 121, PSY 235, BIO 201, and BIO 202
3. Complete background check, immunizations, CPR, and drug screen
Last edited by GirlCalledJack : Jun 28, 2005 at 03:05 PM.
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Jun 28, 2005, 03:05 PM
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are there any courses included with your nursing program besides basic nursing courses? Like micro and pharm?? The program I am in requires the following:
Program of Study- Minimum GPA for Admission 3.0
TECHNICAL COURSES
BIO 121 Anatomy & Physiology I
BIO 122 Anatomy & Physiology II
BIO 123 Anatomy & Physiology III
BIO 131 Anatomy & Physiology Lab I
BIO 132 Anatomy & Physiology Lab II
BIO 133 Anatomy & Physiology Lab III
BIO 171 Microbiology I
BIO 172 Microbiology II
BIO 181 Microbiology Lab I
BIO 182 Microbiology Lab II
BIO 220 Pharmacology
NURS 114 Health Assessment and Clinical Reasoning
NURS 115 Basic Nursing Concepts
NURS 125 Psychiatric/Mental Health Nursing
NURS 126 Maternal-Newborn Nursing
NURS 127 Child Health Nursing
NURS 128 Comprehensive Adult Nursing I
NURS 205 Applied Clinical Ethics in Nursing
NURS 210 Comprehensive Adult Nursing II
NURS 213 Comprehensive Adult Nursing III
NURS 245 Advanced Concepts in Nursing
GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES
MTH 135 Algebra
MTH 140 Allied Health Math
ENG 105 College Composition I
ENG 106 College Composition II
PSY 121 General Psychology
PSY 136 Lifespan Development
SOC 201 Introduction to Sociology
SPE 110 Speech
Humanities Elective
Language Elective - Preferably Spanish
Last edited by Brinley : Jun 28, 2005 at 03:10 PM.
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Jun 28, 2005, 03:07 PM
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John 3:16
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Originally Posted by GirlCalledJack
Here is exactly what the information I have says...
Wait List
ENG 121 (Basic Comp)
PSY 235 (Human Growth and Development)
BIO 201 (A&P 1)
Nursing aptitude
Admission list
Wait List Courses
Bio 202 (A&P 2)
Admission to Program
Admission List Courses
HPR 216 (Pathophysiology)
Humanities Elective (AGS core)
Requirements prior to wait list
1. Select maximum of two program or site options
2. Must have application and official transcripts available at college of choice
3. Passing score on the nursing aptitude test
4. Science courses valid for no more than 7 years prior to admission
Requirements prior to program admission
1. Must meet college level basic skills: minimum MAT 090, REA 090
2. Minimum GPA of 2.5 in ENG 121, PSY 235, BIO 201, and BIO 202
3. Complete background check, immunizations, CPR, and drug screen
Sorry, but that still reads like a very weak associate in science program to major as a nurse.
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Jun 28, 2005, 03:12 PM
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Here's the breakdown for the actual program once I'm in
Core Curriculum Requirements 57
First Year:
NUR 101 Pharmacology Calculations 1
NUR 106 Medical and Surgical Nursing Concepts 7
NUR 107 Nursing Concepts and Skills I 4
NUR 108 Nursing Concepts and Skills II 3
NUR 112 Basic Concepts of Pharmacology 2
NUR 117 Nursing Care of the Childbearing Family 3
NUR 118 Nursing Care of Children 3
NUR 171 Clinical II: Application of Fundamental Skills II 1-6
NUR 172 Clinical III: Application of Medical-Surgical Skills II 1-6
Second Year:
NUR 206 Advanced Concepts of Medical-Surgical Nursing I 5
NUR 210 Nursing Care of Complex Obstetrical and Pediatric Clients 5
NUR 211 Nursing Care of Psychiatric Clients 5
NUR 216 Advanced Concepts of Medical Surgical Nursing II 4
NUR 217 Leadership for Professional Nursing Practice 2
NUR 273 Expanded Clinical IV: Advanced Concepts of Med-Surg Nursing II 1-6
NUR 274 Expanded Clinical V: Advanced Applications in Pediatric Nursing 1-6
NUR 278 Seminar 1-6
NUR 288 Practicum: Health and Physical Assessment for Nursing Practice 1-3
NUR 289 Capstone: Comprehensive Nursing Internship 2-3
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Jun 28, 2005, 03:14 PM
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cheerfuldoer.. take a list at the courses for my program.. this is how most of the programs in the state I am in look? I am wondering if the OP school includes more instruction in the nursing rotation... I myself am trying to take everything but nursing classes while I am on the wait list.. I am slated to start my clinical rotation in January.
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Jun 28, 2005, 03:21 PM
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I don't know for sure what all my school offers, but I plan on taking EVERYTHING beyond what is just offered in the program! There are several nursing courses that are not required, but I am planning to take!
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