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Old Dec 12, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rep
And Christopher Reeve's private nurse is a FILIPINO. In case every body doesn't know.
What does that matter? I think it would be more important whether or not she was competent, not her nationality.

I agree with this move. As long as hospitals can get away with fleshing out staffs with foreign nurses there will be no impetus to improve conditions.

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fab4fan
What does that matter? I think it would be more important whether or not she was competent, not her nationality.

I agree with this move. As long as hospitals can get away with fleshing out staffs with foreign nurses there will be no impetus to improve conditions.
Is it wrong if I want everybody to know that Reeve's nurse is a Filipino?

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 10:51 AM
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I think it's odd and not really relevant. Suppose Reeve's nurse would have been from the USA. I hardly think anyone would need to say that..."By the way, Christopher Reeve's nurse was an American."

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by fab4fan
I think it's odd and not really relevant. Suppose Reeve's nurse would have been from the USA. I hardly think anyone would need to say that..."By the way, Christopher Reeve's nurse was an American."
Ok, it is not relevant. My purpose is to identify the nationality of the foreigner. That is it.

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rep
Is it wrong if I want everybody to know that Reeve's nurse is a Filipino?
SO?

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 11:25 AM
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Christopher Reeve is Dead, Lord rest him, so why are we discussing his NURSE? He is beyond needing a nurse of any nationality now. Anyhow, What possible relevance to this actism/news thread does that have????!

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 11:27 AM
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I have to agree with Fab4 and Mattsmom. In a way, our hospitals and facilities are "outsourcing" to save money, not allievate or solve the true problem. The solution need not be to rake the ends of the earth for nurses. We have PLENTY in the USA now, really! I don't blame other nurses from the world for coming here to seek opportunity; I would want to do the same in their shoes. My ire is not with them----but I am not naive, either. I don't pretend to believe the facilities hiring them give a plug nickle about them, or us--- OR decent care for their patients. The mass import of cheaper labor really does hurt those of us fighting for better conditions and pay.


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Old Dec 12, 2004, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SmilingBluEyes
I have to agree with Fab4 and Mattsmom. In a way, our hospitals and facilities are "outsourcing" to save money, not allievate or solve the true problem. The solution need not be to rake the ends of the earth for nurses. We have PLENTY in the USA now, really! I don't blame other nurses from the world for coming here to seek opportunity; I would want to do the same in their shoes. My ire is not with them----but I am not naive, either. I don't pretend to believe the facilities hiring them give a plug nickle about them, or us--- OR decent care for their patients. The mass import of cheaper labor really does hurt those of us fighting for better conditions and pay.
Yep. Totally agree.

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Old Dec 12, 2004, 04:51 PM
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Offended for identifying

From this thread, I got clobbered just because I identified the nationality of a foreign nurse taking care of a great actor. I know it is not relevant to the discussion but why should I be castigated to? If that nurse was an American, will be castigated too for identifying her as an American?

As an open minded person, I agree with most posters here that the hiring of foreign nurses is just a band aid solution to the nursing shortage.

It doesn't give any incentives for hospitals/employers to improve working conditions, salaries, safer staffing when all they want is money.

For the BCIS to ease the backlog, the US agency will stop processing working and immigrant visas filed after January 2002 until such time the backlog is gone. For those nurses who really BELIEVE that foreign nurses are to be blamed for the nursing shortage, i.e. hospitals look to us, instead of keeping American nurses by providing them all the conditions they wanted.

Then YOU only have two to three years to make the most of it. This is YOUR window of opportunity to act together. As you act together here in this thread against the hiring of foreign nurses. As you act together by agreeing that this new visa rule is good for all American nurses.

Get your act together because after the backlog is gone, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BLAME US AGAIN BECAUSE AMERICAN EMPLOYERS WILL START LOOKING FOR US.

For POSTERS who wrote fondly for foreign nurses which include Filipinos, a big THANK YOU!


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Old Dec 12, 2004, 05:01 PM
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You were not "clobbered." You were simply asked why the nurse's nationality was of any import. It's irrelevant. Just because someone questions what you say does not mean you are being attacked.

And you can bet the ranch that anyone bold enough to brag that "so-and-so" was cared for by a nurse from the "good old USA" would have been flamed for it.

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