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Old Dec 11, 2004, 09:40 AM
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dahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...thats what i am talking about !!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Rep
Wrong, it is not your country/government who spend money for foreign nurses but the employers. They are the ones who sponsor the visas and gives assistance to them.

Anyway, whether you like it. Foreign nurses will still arrive and fill up vacancies except that the waiting period is longer.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NurseGuy_in_06
This is one of the prices we MUST pay to keep people out of the country that would do us harm.
This is totally ridiculous as the people who blew up the WTC didn't come from these countries. You appear to be sterotyping other people.

What this policy is - its about racism and the Republican party.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by stbernardclub
Im fine with that decision...I would rather this country spend the money on education and better pay and working conditions for american nurses before they offer assistance to a foreign nurse to move here to work.
Then please don't send your recruiters to the UK to poach our nurses! Pay your nurses more to encourage your country's youth to become nurses.

We in the UK are happy to have foreign nurses apply.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry
Then please don't send your recruiters to the UK to poach our nurses! Pay your nurses more to encourage your country's youth to become nurses.

We in the UK are happy to have foreign nurses apply.

Perhaps the UK would do well to follow your advice. Pay your nurses more....and they won't be poached by the USA. Encourage your country's youth to become nurses and you won't have to have foreign nurses apply.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 3rdShiftGuy
Perhaps the UK would do well to follow your advice. Pay your nurses more....and they won't be poached by the USA. Encourage your country's youth to become nurses and you won't have to have foreign nurses apply.
Well the salary in the UK is better than that for nurses in US. The dollar is cheap change in our pockets. There is less crime here and a lot less gun shootings.

Our health service is being run by foreigners but then again we're not red necks (meaning in this case short-nosed) - we believe in equal opportunities. We have Democratic values unlike the US who are on this Republican roller coaster! Schwarznegger embraces a klu klax kind of exclusiveness that has obviously been made in bollywood....

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 3rdShiftGuy
Perhaps the UK would do well to follow your advice. Pay your nurses more....and they won't be poached by the USA. Encourage your country's youth to become nurses and you won't have to have foreign nurses apply.
Actually, what determines the overage or shortage in the supply of nurses are the patients. They would rather be served by foreign nurses and live than not to be served by American nurses and die. The more nurses there are, foreign or local, the happier and the more-well-cared-for the patients will be. Christopher Reeve's personal nurse was a foreigner and I am sure she was chosen not because she demanded higher pay. This ban for foreign nurses will surely increase the hardships of the needy patients and those who cannot afford the high cost of health care in America. And what about the ideal or legal patient-to-nurse ratio? Can it wait until the country's youth shall have been encouraged to become nurses?

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FlorenceN2005
Actually, what determines the overage or shortage in the supply of nurses are the patients. They would rather be served by foreign nurses and live than not to be served by American nurses and die. The more nurses there are, foreign or local, the happier and the more-well-cared-for the patients will be. Christopher Reeve's personal nurse was a foreigner and I am sure she was chosen not because she demanded higher pay. This ban for foreign nurses will surely increase the hardships of the needy patients and those who cannot afford the high cost of health care in America. And what about the ideal or legal patient-to-nurse ratio? Can it wait until the country's youth shall have been encouraged to become nurses?
As a manager I found that Filipino nurses worked the hardest than any other group of nurses I know.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 3rdShiftGuy
Thanks for the clarification. So it's not fair to fast track nurses as terrorist may come in that way.

Makes me nervous about migrant workers here in Florida. Are there terrorists among them?
Yes there are.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NurseGuy_in_06
Yes there are.
If you know any, please turn them in as a service to this country and to lessen the workload of nurses who might have to attend to the victims of terrorism.

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Old Dec 11, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry
This is totally ridiculous as the people who blew up the WTC didn't come from these countries. You appear to be sterotyping other people.

What this policy is - its about racism and the Republican party.
You have no right to stereotpye me or anyone else who believes that the only immigrants that we want in this country are those that will have a positive impact here. That includes those being willing to follow all of our laws and requirements. Where does it say in this world that you should not have to work and wait if necessary to get what you want in life. If waiting to get into this country to work is a requirement for our safety the so be it. In the last 100 years or so no one has been forced to come here against their will. And if your country is a free country then your countrymen or countrywomen are also free to be recruited and make their own choices about where to work.

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