[HM2Viking]

Liberals and conservatives may be duking it out over the issue of universal healthcare, but more than a few participants at the Health Industry Group Purchasing Association’s 2007 International Expo, held Oct. 22-24 in Palm Desert, Calif., said the outcome of the fight is a foregone conclusion: Like it or not, within the next few years the U.S. is going to have a nationwide, single-payer system.

“In one way or another, we’re going to have universal healthcare, because you can’t have a business where half of the possible customers can’t afford the product,” said Joe Flower during a HIGPA conference breakout session on the future of healthcare.

Flower, a self-dubbed healthcare futurist, consultant and author of several books on the business of healthcare, has written about the potential benefits of a single-payer system. He asserts that universal healthcare could ultimately promote efficiency; improve pricing and quality-of-service transparencies; and reduce administrative costs and health-cost-related bankruptcies.
Source: http://www.modernhealthcare.com/apps.../FREE/71030003 accessed today.

[CRNA2007]

Ain't gonna happen. As soon as Hillary is soundly defeated so will her socialistic tendencies and we can say the election was a referendum on socialized medicine, and any number of her other foolish ideas (baby bonds, ID cards for illegals, philandering husbands, tax increases, cattle futures, firing and wrongful persecution of white house travel employees........)

Originally Posted by HM2Viking

Liberals and conservatives may be duking it out over the issue of universal healthcare, but more than a few participants at the Health Industry Group Purchasing Association’s 2007 International Expo, held Oct. 22-24 in Palm Desert, Calif., said the outcome of the fight is a foregone conclusion: Like it or not, within the next few years the U.S. is going to have a nationwide, single-payer system.

“In one way or another, we’re going to have universal healthcare, because you can’t have a business where half of the possible customers can’t afford the product,” said Joe Flower during a HIGPA conference breakout session on the future of healthcare.

Flower, a self-dubbed healthcare futurist, consultant and author of several books on the business of healthcare, has written about the potential benefits of a single-payer system. He asserts that universal healthcare could ultimately promote efficiency; improve pricing and quality-of-service transparencies; and reduce administrative costs and health-cost-related bankruptcies.
Source: http://www.modernhealthcare.com/apps.../FREE/71030003 accessed today.

[hope3456]

I agree with this article. I think it will happen b/c U.S. citizens are going to demand it thru their voting power. I know that I for one will be. The current system is letting too many people fall thru the cracks for too many reasons, and like the article said, many of the 'uninsured/underinsured' are voters. We aren't just talking about poor h.s. dropouts anymore - the 'uninsured' problem is reaching farther up into the middle/upper class.

Oh, and CRNA 2007 - I am just curious, how do you feel about providing services to uninsured pt's - or those on medicaid?

[TheCommuter]

I'd hate to sound like the gloomy pessimist, but I will only believe this when I actually SEE it.

[HM2Viking]

Making every post a referendum about Hilary Clinton is a bit tiresome. A reasonable person would have read the article before posting a response.

The article was discussing how a bipartisan concensus is emerging to bring forth a universal plan. I have friends who are financial analysts for large corporations. They are saying the same thing about how corporate america wants to see this happen.

[fgoff]

Just a thought, If this does happen... Let us pray that honest/trustworthy people right the bill that becomes the law and the the overseers of the program have the same qualifications!

[CHATSDALE]

Originally Posted by fgoff

Just a thought, If this does happen... Let us pray that honest/trustworthy people right the bill that becomes the law and the the overseers of the program have the same qualifications!

this is not going to happen bureaucrats do not know the being of the words honest/trustworthy - look at the horrors that went off after
katrina/rita, this is just the tip of the iceberg..theres going to be some really rich folk getting their fingers in the pie

[bayoubengals]

If this happens it will be the end of the excellent healthcare we have as we know it.
Nationlized healthcare is worthless, long waits for treatment, denial of services, look at britian and canada. Heard on the radio that 70,000 britons left the country last year for procedures they could not get in Britian. When I was in Great Falls, Montana, late 80's/early 90's, every weekend we were invaded by canadiens seeking healthcare and prescription medicines they could not get in thier own country with its nationalized medicine.

hope3456, let me put in my 2 cents on medicaid and uninsured. First off I have no problem taking care of them. I am presently an ER nurse and it is the attitude of those on medicaid that is a major part of the problem. You see to them its all free and they use it as such...little jhonny has a fever for 2 hrs and they are in the er, litttle jhonny scraped his knee and they are in the er, little suzy stepped on dads hand and it hurts in the er never mind that little suzy weighs a mere 40pounds and simplly stepped on the hand. You see they have know accountability, the average person visits the er less than once in 3 years, I have had medicaid pt's in the er 50+ times in 6months.
They abuse thier privelege(sp). Then make them wait while you are running a code or a code trauma and be accused of neglicting them.
Try working in the er and see for yourself.

[CRNA2007]

I don't know what any of my patients have for insurance. How do you feel about providing services for people who work hard and have earned what they have?

Originally Posted by hope3456

I agree with this article. I think it will happen b/c U.S. citizens are going to demand it thru their voting power. I know that I for one will be. The current system is letting too many people fall thru the cracks for too many reasons, and like the article said, many of the 'uninsured/underinsured' are voters. We aren't just talking about poor h.s. dropouts anymore - the 'uninsured' problem is reaching farther up into the middle/upper class.

Oh, and CRNA 2007 - I am just curious, how do you feel about providing services to uninsured pt's - or those on medicaid?

[CRNA2007]

All I hear from Democrats is a referendum on George Bush, who is not even running for re-election.

Originally Posted by HM2Viking

Making every post a referendum about Hilary Clinton is a bit tiresome. A reasonable person would have read the article before posting a response.

The article was discussing how a bipartisan concensus is emerging to bring forth a universal plan. I have friends who are financial analysts for large corporations. They are saying the same thing about how corporate america wants to see this happen.