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Old Aug 09, 2004, 02:37 PM
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Talking OMG Where do I sign up!!!

How interesting.


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RF stands for "Radio Frequency". This is a form of radation. Without a DX supporting the need for radation, I do not want it put under my skin. Most forms of radition are harmful in one way or another. Military Radio Communications personnel and Amateur Radio Ops are trained to avoid too much RF exposure and how to calculate safe distances from an RF source. RF radation can and will cause serious burns to exposed skin. Just because it is low power doesn't mean that it is truely safe. It just takes longer to do it's damage. Take it from me as a Amateur Radio Op and one who delt with communications in the Army, this is a very bad idea.


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Old Aug 09, 2004, 06:08 PM
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Wink I was kidding!!!

Interesting.


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Old Aug 09, 2004, 10:13 PM
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I don't think I like that idea too much. It reminds me of the very first episode of Futurama when they had chips implanted to determine what type of job they were going to have LOL

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Old Aug 15, 2004, 07:35 AM
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Where are Fox Mulder and Dana Scully when we need them

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Old Aug 15, 2004, 03:40 PM
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Thumbs down The Mark of The Beast.

Is this the "666" of Revelation?

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Old Aug 16, 2004, 01:04 AM
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So we know that topical med patches burn patients when used in MRI...what do you think that a microchip will do??????

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Old Aug 16, 2004, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by caroladybelle
So we know that topical med patches burn patients when used in MRI...what do you think that a microchip will do??????

Of course they will be made out of titanium or plastic or the like

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Old Aug 16, 2004, 08:05 AM
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We always have the right to refuse. I intend to. I don't trust the government. It's why I support the Second Amendment--and the reason the founding fathers wrote it in the first place. (Please don't PM me about weapons. Thanks.)

However, wouldn't it be good if paroled felons (maybe felons in general) had them? Or delinquents confined with curfew restrictions? It might help to keep them where they are supposed to be. Or at least, easily corraled. And the chips could be removed when the "sentence" was over. (Of course I also think that there should be a bank of info for persons who bounce checks, abandon their credit card debt and then carry on like nothing happened. I think they should all be made to use cash. Save us all big, big bucks. But they don't ask me.... teehee.)

This way, GPS can work for regular people.... keeping us safer.

As to all the Biblical references. I think we get into trouble when we look at the Bible, written hundreds of years ago and translated how many times? in a literal fashion with untrained (and I don't mean don't go to church or have a faith, I mean untrained like didn't go to seminary for 8 years or whatever and really know what we're talking about) eyes.

Avoiding being d****d is pretty simple. Do good works. Care about others. Live by the Golden Rule. Learn to forgive. Make responsible decisions and follow through with them. Do the next right thing. As best you can, keep your mind on positive things and wish others well.

Do that, and I don't believe (and I am, by my own definition, untrained) any God most of us would recognize would condemn us, based on a chip. Puhleeze!

As long as we are talking Biblical references, check out Matthew 25: 31-46. It is the parable of the sheep and the goats. In it, He doesn't even say you have to believe in Him. He says, if you treat others as if they were me, you're good to go. If you don't treat others as if they were me, you're gone.

Pretty simple.

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Old Aug 16, 2004, 08:49 AM
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The Humane Society already utilizes microchips that they implant into the backs of dogs and cats. The chip contains the owner's information so that if ever the animal is found without a collar they can still return it to its owner. It's pretty neat actually, though I understand that is for pets and we are discussing humans.

I work in a LTC and our residents don't have wristbands or any other means of identification besides their face. It's frightening when a nurse float is about to give medicine to one of my residents and calls her by the wrong name. Sometimes they have to ask me who a resident is and I point them out. I'm sure people get the wrong medication sometimes. Yes, they have an outdated picture of the resident by the med chart but during the last part of my shift the residents are in bed, without dentures, glasses, and other means of ID. They look different. Because of this I can see a use for the microchips. I understand why there is talk of implementing them, although I also understand why someone wouldn't want a metal chip implanted into their body. I'm sure the chip would be miniscule, benign, and not stick out of the skin or anything. (Don't think pacemaker). I guess if I was sick enough I'd take the chip if it meant that my medication and overall care would have a better chance of being performed properly without error.

Another facet to this is...what if the information in the chip was entered incorrectly by the clerk? There will always, always be human error. I guess the goal is to reduce it as best we can.

As far as the Bible reference, I'm not afraid. Bring it.

Shel

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