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Old Jul 08, 2004, 01:38 AM
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Studies showed abusive physicians contribute to nursing shortage

Despite relying on nurses for important caregiving functions, physicians may be driving them away from the profession, according to a new study by healthcare alliance VHA. And if Irving, Texas-based VHA is right, the exodus of dissatisfied nurses comes as a healthcare workforce shortage reportedly grows.
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When arrogant docs drive nurses away, patients suffer

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 04:31 AM
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Verbal abuse and unethical behavior has been an extremly large factor in promoting job disatisfaction for nurses. Nurses not only tolerate this behavior from MD's but from the patients themselves, the patients family members, as well as their co-workers and worse yet from each other. Unfortunatly when women are home often times they are the vicitims of domestic violence and at work they have to suffer from work place violence. Until the hospitals start establishing zero tolerance for people who act in an abusive manner, this problem will continue. NO I do not agree with the article that compared the nurse MD relationship to a marriage. These MD's better never confuse us with their spouses.
Originally Posted by Hellllllo Nurse
Despite relying on nurses for important caregiving functions, physicians may be driving them away from the profession, according to a new study by healthcare alliance VHA. And if Irving, Texas-based VHA is right, the exodus of dissatisfied nurses comes as a healthcare workforce shortage reportedly grows.
http://www.nursingpower.net/abuse/ve...use_docs2.html




When arrogant docs drive nurses away, patients suffer

http://www.nursingpower.net/abuse/ve...buse_docs.html

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 04:32 AM
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Good Post.
I work in a public hospital mainly because we have very strong regulations in force regarding workplace bullying/harassment etc. Unfortunately in private hospitals nurses are seen as a nexpense because we generallly don't generate income. This is one reason management will often side with an abusive doctor.
working in a public facility means that if someone gives me a hard time then I can take action against them.

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Farkinott
Good Post.
I work in a public hospital mainly because we have very strong regulations in force regarding workplace bullying/harassment etc. Unfortunately in private hospitals nurses are seen as a nexpense because we generallly don't generate income. This is one reason management will often side with an abusive doctor.
working in a public facility means that if someone gives me a hard time then I can take action against them.
The hospitals SAY we don't generate income, but I'd like to see what kind of income they'd have WITHOUT us.

Nurses get abuse from patients and family members (and doctors too - big cash cows that they are) rammed down their throats by management in the name of customer service (insert "gag me" smilie here). I say "%$&! customer service". Last time I checked, there wasn't a patient shortage, but let me look........................................
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Nope it's definitely a nursing shortage. People are still getting sick and going to hospitals. In fact, I don't see any of them staying home. They are all going to hospitals. Nurses, on the other hand, are leaving the bedside left and right.

Wake up administration!

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 04:06 PM
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I have used the line to a condescending physician "Don't talk to me like that, my husband isn't allowed to and neither are you"

I feel doctors DO look at us as subserviants and as caretakers for them in too many cases. These are wifelike qualities to an egotistical male.

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 04:10 PM
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I think people skills should be mandatory continuing medical education for physicians. If we have to go to happy class for customer service, they should have to go manners class.

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 05:15 PM
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I have used the line to a condescending physician "Don't talk to me like that, my husband isn't allowed to and neither are you"

I feel doctors DO look at us as subserviants and as caretakers for them in too many cases. These are wifelike qualities to an egotistical male.

YOU GO MATTSMOM. I applaud you!

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 07:47 PM
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i wonder why this is so, i mean, youd think that because we are all in the same boat doing the same kind of work that doctors would be respectful and collegial???

Q: Is it mostly male, older physicians who are abusive and take nurses for granted all the time?

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Old Jul 08, 2004, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Farkinott
Good Post.
I work in a public hospital mainly because we have very strong regulations in force regarding workplace bullying/harassment etc. Unfortunately in private hospitals nurses are seen as a nexpense because we generallly don't generate income. This is one reason management will often side with an abusive doctor.
working in a public facility means that if someone gives me a hard time then I can take action against them.
great point farkinott.............the mds get away with it because mgmt. justifies their behavior secondary to a hospital's potential revenue or lack thereof.

if mgmt. had a zero tolerance policy regarding their outbursts, nurses would feel more vindicated and supported....there are so many interventions that administration could implement in terms of their nursing shortages, if only they would not see $$$$ as the bottom line.

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