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Jan 19, 2005, 09:48 PM
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Studies: Doctors, nurses fall short on CPR
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Medical personnel often don't follow several guidelines
CHICAGO - CPR is often performed inadequately by doctors, paramedics and nurses, according to two studies of resuscitation efforts during cardiac arrest.
Whether a stricken patient is in the hospital or on the way, the guidelines for administering cardiopulmonary resuscitation frequently are not followed.
Among common problems: Rescuers did not push hard enough or often enough on the victim's chest to restart the heart, and breathed air into the lungs too often - either mouth-to-mouth or through breathing tubes.
Both studies used an experimental monitor that assesses CPR quality, and both received funding from Laerdal Medical Corp., a Norwegian company that helped developed the device.
The studies appear in today's Journal of the American Medical Association.
more: http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...0352/1001/news
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Last edited by brian : Jan 20, 2005 at 01:40 PM.
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Jan 20, 2005, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by brian
Medical personnel often don't follow several guidelines
CHICAGO - CPR is often performed inadequately by doctors, paramedics and nurses, according to two studies of resuscitation efforts during cardiac arrest.
Whether a stricken patient is in the hospital or on the way, the guidelines for administering cardiopulmonary resuscitation frequently are not followed.
Among common problems: Rescuers did not push hard enough or often enough on the victim's chest to restart the heart, and breathed air into the lungs too often - either mouth-to-mouth or through breathing tubes.
Both studies used an experimental monitor that assesses CPR quality, and both received funding from Laerdal Medical Corp., a Norwegian company that helped developed the device.
The studies appear in today's Journal of the American Medical Association.
more: http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...0352/1001/news
I can hear the lawyers panting over this.
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Jan 20, 2005, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by brian
Medical personnel often don't follow several guidelines
CHICAGO - CPR is often performed inadequately by doctors, paramedics and nurses, according to two studies of resuscitation efforts during cardiac arrest.
Whether a stricken patient is in the hospital or on the way, the guidelines for administering cardiopulmonary resuscitation frequently are not followed.
Among common problems: Rescuers did not push hard enough or often enough on the victim's chest to restart the heart, and breathed air into the lungs too often - either mouth-to-mouth or through breathing tubes.
Both studies used an experimental monitor that assesses CPR quality, and both received funding from Laerdal Medical Corp., a Norwegian company that helped developed the device.
The studies appear in today's Journal of the American Medical Association.
more: http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...0352/1001/news
CPR does NOT "restart the heart" as quoted in this article. CPR tries to maintain some degree of cardio-cerebral perfusion until advanced treatment (defibrillation and drug therapy, but mainly defibrillation) can be brought to the patient. CPR was not meant to be used on everybody but for those suffering sudden cardiac arrhythmic death as a stop-gap until ALS.
Stop saying CPR restarts a heart, it does not!!!!!!
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Jan 20, 2005, 04:56 AM
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This article really irritated me. I am a nursing student and I just got my AHA BLS for Healthcare Providers. I think it is difficult to get all 100 compressions in a minute. CPR is very tiring ... I know my class was wore out just practicing on the mannequin.  When will people realize that health care providers are only human and do the best they can?
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Jan 20, 2005, 12:05 PM
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Doctors, Nurses fall short on CPR
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 It is sad that things like this happen, but I sincerely feel that anyone who decides to get "envolved" in attempting to help by administering CPR would do their best to do so correctly.
I guess my question is How does someone monitor the correctness of CPR on a person when they should be too busy helping the person who needs it?
One cannot place monitors on each person who is getting CPR to measure correctness can they.
I would think that anyone who initiates CPR on a person would know how to do it or they wouldn't do it at all.
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Jan 20, 2005, 12:14 PM
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These articles show up every few years. The one thing that everyone overlooks when they get all self-righteous about the "correct" way to do CPR is that CPR, even done perfectly, is only marginally better than doing NOTHING AT ALL. My father, an anesthesiologist, has always joked that the only thing CPR accomplishes is to allow the floor staff to feel they're doing something useful while waiting for the code team to arrive ...
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Jan 23, 2005, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by elkpark
These articles show up every few years. The one thing that everyone overlooks when they get all self-righteous about the "correct" way to do CPR is that CPR, even done perfectly, is only marginally better than doing NOTHING AT ALL. My father, an anesthesiologist, has always joked that the only thing CPR accomplishes is to allow the floor staff to feel they're doing something useful while waiting for the code team to arrive ...
Thanks for the nice reply.
macspuds
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Jan 24, 2005, 12:54 AM
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I don't take offense to these studies? Yes, these articles may come out every few years, and yes, maybe CPR isn't much better than doing anything at all.... but, if people can improve their technique, and possible provide a better compressions etc... through some studies that might evoke better education or more effective treatments, devices etc... just my
If we didn't study things like this or any other practices, we wouldn't have reason to ever improve anything? Research is not always our enemy.
Last edited by brian : Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57 AM.
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