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Old Sep 20, 2007, 07:15 AM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by awsmom8 View Post
$45 an hr in San Francisco sounds like a lot--but a 2 bedroom 1 bath starter home is close to $650,000 in a so so area. So is $45 really a good wage?
In the Bay Area it isn't but ... as I've pointed out in the past, the California Department of Corrections just raised the pay to $42 an hour for ALL of their facilties statewide. After three years the pay gets up to $46 an hour.

In my area of the state where the cost of living is cheaper ... that's about $15 an hour more than hospital pay for experienced nurses, $20 an hour more if you're a new grad.

The result? My facilty just had 90 applicants interview for only 3 positions. That's 30 applicants for each opening! And ... there is a waiting list of 3,500 RN's for corrections jobs statewide.

So ... the simple fact is ... when you do raise the pay, there is no nursing shortage.


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Old Sep 20, 2007, 07:42 AM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by SMK1 View Post
OK, I agree that nurses are underpaid (severly so in certain areas), but let's not go overboard with the comparisons. Linesman have a dangerous, thankless job. They are the ones that have to go out in and after the storms and repain electrical lines risking electrocution. If they don't do their jobs correctly they can also cause homes electrical fires to start. They deserve to be paid well. Plumbers may not have lives in their hands, but they have a disgusting job than most people don't want. Maybe they are overpaid in comparison to nursing because they aren't saving lives, but still, they again, deserve to be paid well. Nurses deserve a salary more in line with those professions, but they work hard and deserve their money as well.
Oh, Forgive me, I wasn't agreeing with that particular comment.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 08:03 AM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by SMK1 View Post
OK, I agree that nurses are underpaid (severly so in certain areas), but let's not go overboard with the comparisons. Linesman have a dangerous, thankless job. They are the ones that have to go out in and after the storms and repain electrical lines risking electrocution. If they don't do their jobs correctly they can also cause homes electrical fires to start. They deserve to be paid well. Plumbers may not have lives in their hands, but they have a disgusting job than most people don't want. Maybe they are overpaid in comparison to nursing because they aren't saving lives, but still, they again, deserve to be paid well. Nurses deserve a salary more in line with those professions, but they work hard and deserve their money as well.
Okay, I think we do need to compare.
My uncle is an electrician at one of the Auto companies. He is being paid to use the knowledge he obtained through his schooling. He gets paid well, He explained to me, he only has to SHOW UP, if something occur, he fix the problem. Brain work. I have a BSN & I was taught I am a PROFESSIONAL just like my uncle who is an electrician. The difference is he is in a MALE career.
NURSES are responsible for LIFE, if they mess up, (which they do because of the heavy assignments according to research) PEOPLE DIE, GET SICKER & have LONGER HOSPITAL STAY. What part of nursing are you in, did you actually get pass cleaning up poo & vomit. If the axillary staff don't do it, it's the nurses responsibility.
My husband works with plumbing, he don't even turn his nose up with poo or vomit or even the spell of death, which I still do. He's not responsible for any form of LIFE.
I hope I didn't offend you in any way. Nurses thoughts should be, 'we are as important if not more important as a career as other profession'.
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Old Sep 21, 2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by Sheri257 View Post
In the Bay Area it isn't but ... as I've pointed out in the past, the California Department of Corrections just raised the pay to $42 an hour for ALL of their facilties statewide. After three years the pay gets up to $46 an hour.

In my area of the state where the cost of living is cheaper ... that's about $15 an hour more than hospital pay for experienced nurses, $20 an hour more if you're a new grad.

The result? My facilty just had 90 applicants interview for only 3 positions. That's 30 applicants for each opening! And ... there is a waiting list of 3,500 RN's for corrections jobs statewide.

So ... the simple fact is ... when you do raise the pay, there is no nursing shortage.
There you go. The so-called shortage is a fraud.

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Old Sep 23, 2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

No reporter ever gets it right. they are all political animals with absolutely no soul.

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Old Sep 26, 2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by teeituptom View Post
No reporter ever gets it right. they are all political animals with absolutely no soul.
Bizarre, sweeping generalization.

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Old Sep 28, 2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by teeituptom View Post
No reporter ever gets it right. they are all political animals with absolutely no soul.
Just as all nurses are compassionate angels of mercy?

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Old Sep 28, 2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

reporters, paparazzi, are totally without morals and have no compassion. they are no longer human

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Old Sep 29, 2007, 12:22 AM
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Re: Real reason for the "shortage" a reporter gets it right

Originally Posted by teeituptom View Post
reporters, paparazzi, are totally without morals and have no compassion. they are no longer human
I guess there's a nasty reporter somewhere in your past?

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Old Sep 29, 2007, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellllllo Nurse View Post
I guess there's a nasty reporter somewhere in your past?
Several, it sounds like.

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