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Old Oct 13, 2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Nurses and the 2008 election

GW Bush can not spell Totalitarianism

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 07:28 PM
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Re: Nurses and the 2008 election

Originally Posted by Iam46yearsold View Post
GW Bush can not spell Totalitarianism
Nor can he correctly pronounce nuclear. NUCULER
The same with Palin.

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 08:05 PM
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I still would like to know why people who are voting for McCain, are doing so and for what reasons?

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 08:28 PM
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I still would like to know why people who are voting for McCain, are doing so and for what reasons?
And I would love to answer you. But in the process of doing so in numerous threads on this website, conservatives have been labeled racist, hate-filled, ignorant, selfish, uninformed religious wacko hayseeds. I'm not going to open myself up to any more abuse.

If you are truly interested in the conservative mindset, please look up posts by Zashagalka, Spidey's mom and tntrn.

The Heritage Foundation website is worth a look for anyone interested in learning more about the conservative political philosophy.

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 08:44 PM
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No one has put these labels on the conservatives- at least nothing that isn't being documented in case after case.

If you are not a racist, hate monger or any of those labels what have you done to speak against the incidiary remarks of McCain Palin campaign?

Silence is the same as acceptance. Do you not disagree with the inflammatory and dishonest statements being tossed about in an attempt to use hate as a weopon?

Or do you think it is ok as long as the conservative candidate wins?

This is the question that is burning in the minds of progressives these days. We understand (but disagree) with the conservative arguements but this issue is one we are having a hard time grasping.

Since when is muslim a bad word?
Why does islam =terror in the stump speeches
"That one", "does not think like us" , "kill him" "terrorist", N*** http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/...n_angry_crowds

This is now the burning question that lingers. Haven't we moved past all of this and if so why aren't more republicans admonishing their members and candidataes for making race and religion an issue in this campaign?

Donna Brazile: Don't Ever Put Me In The Back Of The Bus"

I'm gonna say it and get it off my chest, because for the next thirty days, I'm gonna be the best Catholic woman ever....As a child who grew up in the segregated Deep South, we've come so far in this country....But I remember when I used to get on the bus: my mother would tell me, "Donna, when you get on the bus, you and your brothers go all the way to the back, and don't look at anybody." We have changed. This is a more tolerant, open, progressive society. And yet, we're having this conversation because [Obama] is biracial. He spent nine months in the womb of a white woman. He was raised...by his white grandparents...He got out of school and went to Harvard, and all of a sudden he's "uppity" and there's something wrong with him? What is wrong with us?...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_132007.html

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 09:28 PM
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And I would love to answer you. But in the process of doing so in numerous threads on this website, conservatives have been labeled racist, hate-filled, ignorant, selfish, uninformed religious wacko hayseeds. I'm not going to open myself up to any more abuse.

If you are truly interested in the conservative mindset, please look up posts by Zashagalka, Spidey's mom and tntrn.

The Heritage Foundation website is worth a look for anyone interested in learning more about the conservative political philosophy.
I have to agree with RN Power OHIO. She has legitimate questions and I am curious too. I was raised in a very conservative house with a father who served in a republican office in Colorado Springs, Colorado. (hard to get much more conservative than that) Now, both of them are voting for Obama; still registered republican. (My mother just changed her party to democratic)

I have looked at McCain with an open mind, but cannot see the things most conservatives see. I understand how some people are very anti abortion and that is fine. However, I have some very good democratic friends who are anti abortion as well. When I look at the issues between the two candidates, from a humanitarian point of view, I see nothing in common with McCain.

The only thing I truly agree with McCain on are his immigration ideas. Not a big enough deal to move my vote.

I will check those out. But I have not heard anyone who is voting for Obama call names or blame the McCain supporters for being racist. I actually hear that from the McCain supporters. I read all areas of news; fox included. Also, I keep reading a lot of false reporting from fox which bothers me. If they would have taken the time to get the real story before assuming that ACORN was involved with voting fraud, then they wouldn't have to back peddle. Once you plant the seed, we all know it grows and grows and grows.

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 10:20 PM
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Re: Nurses and the 2008 election

I have stopped posting on the political threads of this website because of the ubiquitous accusations of racism and hate. I am disgusted with the uncivil tone and unfounded accusations.

I will not engage in that dialog here either. I have referred the questioner to other posters who have not yet given up on the prospect of respectful and thoughtful dialog, and to a website that discusses conservative philosophies on the chance that s/he will find the answers s/he seeks.

For what it's worth, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative, which McCain is not. I don't like either candidate for President, and fear that our country will be headed down a troubled road regardless of who wins the Presidency.

Good night.

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 10:33 PM
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I am sorry that frank and open discussion has offended you. Frankly, there are many people offended in this nation and the only way to unify will be to go issue by issue and person by person. This is how attitudes are changed.

I do not believe that anyone called you any derogatory name personally. The accusations of racism and hate though not directed at you personally are unfortunately relevant in this thread as they have become relevant in the election. Not by my choosing.

The issue of racial and religious bias is also important to us as nurses. Remember the cross cultural implications of nursing care. We as caregivers must recognize our biases and work to eliminate unhealthy biases within our profession.

If you personally do not share the views of so many hateful Americans then I would suppose that we actually agree on this issue.

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 10:45 PM
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Bravo RN Power Ohio!!!

You've said what I continue to try to elucidate. Silence is approval and if people approve where does it leave them and what else can people infer from that approval.

Having thoughts in your head and a large vocabulary in no way infers the ability to blend them on paper.

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Old Oct 13, 2008, 11:14 PM
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Viva-
I think you are missing the point. Some McCain supporters (and McCain & Palin themselves) are basing their political ideology on a platform of hate.

Our question is "Where is the outrage"? Why are the good people of McCain not crying out for this to stop?

I should tell you how I spent the past week:

After I saw the atrocious behavior in the "Free Speech Zone" at the Ohio rally in person, lining the streets of my main street and on the national news, I went down the street to my mayors house (a repub) and told him that I was concerned that people around the country are looking into our community and seeing the poster child of hate and bigotry. I asked him to admonish hate speech in our community and he refused.

I called city council reps and they not only shared my concern but also told me of more hate actions in my developement and in the city. Again, a refusal to admonish such hate speech.

Yesterday, I participated in a labor walk where not once but twice I was told that I was aiding terrorism by supporting a muslim. I spoke to my friend in a neighboring community and she told me similar tales. She has been warned to take down her Nurses for Obama sign or pay the consequence. These types of things are occurring all over the country and the "leaders" of this campaign continue to use inflammatory and false inferences to incite hate and/or fear.

This is irresponsible use of power and influence. If you agree say so and do something to protest it.

cry freedom cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gRDYK_CaIo

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