[Hellllllo Nurse]

Originally Posted by HARRN2b

Are you not concerned that this is just a method of "outsourcing". It is not outsourcing per se but rather "insourcing". A better method would be, imo, to import nurses to teach US students who are trying to get into US nursing schools. If this "insourcing" continues for the long term, wages will be significantly lowered. I have seen this in other industries.

I agree!

As I keep saying over and over- there are too many nurses in the Texas Panhandle and in South Kansas.
Why don't recruiters look in these areas before "in sourcing"?!?!?!@?!#$%^$!

[Hellllllo Nurse]

Originally Posted by ArizonaICU

I'm really happy that New York is getting 10k RN's from Korea. They need them. So, if they work @ $25/hr thats 50k. Money is also going to the agencies brokering the deal. I think prevailing SEIU wage is like 32.5/hour or 65k in NYC. I'm fairly certain that the Korean nurses will be aware of the standard wages for nurses. Theres more than enough work to go around, we just need to encourage everyone- domestic and foreign- to demand that they be paid ~$100k, the "new rate" that I know RN's are worth.

FYI I'm not really sure this constitutes insourcing... we are exporting dollars to buy nurses. The jobs are still being exported to non-us workers, though they perform the work here.

Questions not answered by the article....
Are these Korean Nurses getting $25 an hour plus travel, housing, stipend, etc. like a Canadian or US traveler RN gets? They should be or else they are being taken advantage of, which is unethical.
How will sending so many nurses abroad affect Korea domestically? I'm not sure that it is ethical to poach 10k nurses from any country to the detriment of that country's health care system.
10k is a big number. Who knows if they'll be able to deliver anywhere near that number within the timeframe? It doesn't say they'll all come at the same time.
Will that many nurses want to come here for only 25/hr? who knows? What percentage would stay permanently? Not 100%.
Do foreign nurses pay taxes? I sure hope so.

Hey, New York!

The Texas Panhandle in full of RNs who can't find jobs, and if they do find work, they are making $20. an hr, max.
Come to the panhandle and recruit. Please!

[HARRN2b]

And now I read the US wants to import nurses from Africa. Is nursing the next 8.00 an hour career. Our politicians keep on wanting to increase immigration. They talk out both sides of their mouth. IMO, it is all about corporate greed, nothing else, pure and simple. Do you really think they are concerned about patient ratio's?

[fergus51]

I'm sure if nurses in the Texas panhandle showed interest in these hospitals they could get jobs, so I don't understand why you would fault them for not actively recruiting there. You can't wait for a hospital to call you at home and offer you a job.

[HARRN2b]

Fergus,

Thats true. If you do not like the conditions/pay in your area, you can move elsewhere. I just worry about the immigration situation. Wages are always based on supply/demand. I hate that America is now governed by corporations who's only concern is money. I realize that they have to make a profit, but this is not the America I grew up in, or even the America from the late 1990's.

Too much immigration=too much supply=lower wages=happy corporate ceo's

[fergus51]

Too much immigration is the part there that I disagree with. The demand for nurses is huge and will grow TONS in the future. Look at the average age of nurses and the population at large. You could import 50 000 Korean nurses and it still won't lead to an oversupply of nurses. This is just the latest boogeyman for news reporters.

[pickledpepperRN]

Originally Posted by fergus51

I'm sure if nurses in the Texas panhandle showed interest in these hospitals they could get jobs, so I don't understand why you would fault them for not actively recruiting there. You can't wait for a hospital to call you at home and offer you a job.

I get calls offering jobs almost every day.

Are there really too many nurses in Amarillo and Wichita? Or are the hospitals short staffed and unwilling or unable to hire enough nurses?
No matter which I think it would be very smart to recruit where nurses who want to work are unemployed.

We had a wonderful travel nurse from Amarillo who stayed almost a year. We miss her.

[SueBee RN-BSN]

I sent this story to the media. Hospitals want cheep labor, and nurses who will take abuse. This is unsafe for our people.

[sunnyjohn]

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MOO

[RN4NICU]

Originally Posted by WhimsieRN

I have seen on this site in places where there are those who do not believe that we have a nursing shortage. They say that since there are so many nurses not working as nurses that nurses are a dime a dozen. If a nurse is not working as a nurse then she is not a nurse and should not call herself such.

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!!!

Anyone who has completed the educational requirements and has earned the license IS AN NURSE AND HAS EVERY RIGHT TO CALL HIM/HERSELF A NURSE. That person has the right to work as a nurse and likewise has the right to look for jobs outside of nursing if he/she chooses. That does not negate the person's education, experience, or licensure.